Fuck it, right? Since we have a full forum we can make a few new threads.
Here are the groups, the arrows show which teams I think will advance, the O shows UEFA (third) and the X is eliminated.
A
Chelsea <=
Bordeaux O
Roma <=
CFR X
B
Inter <=
Famagusta X
Panathinaikos O
Werder <=
C
Barca <=
Shaktar O
Basel X
Sporting <=
D
Atletico <=
Liverpool <=
Marseille X
PSV O
E
Villareal O
Man. Utd. <=
Celtic <=
Aalborg X
F
Bayern <=
Lyon <=
Fiorentina O
Steaua Bucharest X
G
Porto O
Dynamo Kiev X
Arsenal <=
Fenerbahce <=
H
Real Madrid <=
Juve <=
Zenit O
BATE X
As for an early prediction for the winners, I'd go for Real. They "younged up" and they look to be rolling. Atletico is my dark horse. A seriously good side. And Aguero of course. They made mincemeat out of PSV last tuesday. Although it must be said that PSV was absolutely horrid at the back. Especially that Frenchman, Brechet. Christ, he was two steps too late with every situation. Pieters didn't look good, either. Now they may require some time to fit in, Pieters is a young gun and he'll be fine, but that Frenchman is just woeful.
And for UEFA cup, we'll fill in the groups when that stage is reached. For now, the Dutch teams did this:
My club FC Twente needs to patch up a 2-1 defeat vs. Stade Rennes next week.
Ajax solidly won vs. some obscure eastern team with 4-1.
Heerenveen drew with Vittoria Setubal and NEC actually won against Dynamo Bucharest (not bad!).
Here are the groups, the arrows show which teams I think will advance, the O shows UEFA (third) and the X is eliminated.
A
Chelsea <=
Bordeaux O
Roma <=
CFR X
B
Inter <=
Famagusta X
Panathinaikos O
Werder <=
C
Barca <=
Shaktar O
Basel X
Sporting <=
D
Atletico <=
Liverpool <=
Marseille X
PSV O
E
Villareal O
Man. Utd. <=
Celtic <=
Aalborg X
F
Bayern <=
Lyon <=
Fiorentina O
Steaua Bucharest X
G
Porto O
Dynamo Kiev X
Arsenal <=
Fenerbahce <=
H
Real Madrid <=
Juve <=
Zenit O
BATE X
As for an early prediction for the winners, I'd go for Real. They "younged up" and they look to be rolling. Atletico is my dark horse. A seriously good side. And Aguero of course. They made mincemeat out of PSV last tuesday. Although it must be said that PSV was absolutely horrid at the back. Especially that Frenchman, Brechet. Christ, he was two steps too late with every situation. Pieters didn't look good, either. Now they may require some time to fit in, Pieters is a young gun and he'll be fine, but that Frenchman is just woeful.
And for UEFA cup, we'll fill in the groups when that stage is reached. For now, the Dutch teams did this:
My club FC Twente needs to patch up a 2-1 defeat vs. Stade Rennes next week.
Ajax solidly won vs. some obscure eastern team with 4-1.
Heerenveen drew with Vittoria Setubal and NEC actually won against Dynamo Bucharest (not bad!).