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[masta247]

8GB is only really supposed to be sold online I believe although I did see some reports that some stores had it.

I think it's worth springing the extra cash for the 16GB. After the OS and system apps you only get something like 5.5GB of space for your own apps, data, and music on the 8GB model.

Yeah, but 5,5GB will be enough for me. I don't use more than 2GB on my phone. Plus I won't store music or movies on a tablet since whenever I need them I have wifi in range and they're on my Dropbox so I can stream them. So I only need the storage space for books and apps and for that 5,5GB is more than enough - I think the 8GB version is perfect for me.

I wish I could just go to Walmart or Best Buy and just get one. If I'll have to pay for shipping of the 8GB version I suppose I'd go with the 16GB one after all. The difference would be like 25$ and it would save me extra hassle.

edit: Apparently the Office Depot sells them?
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/120697/Nexus-7-From-Google-7-Tablet/
If true I'll be happy to grab one next week.

 

[ARon]

http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/15/3244581/samsung-expert-apple-bounce-back-patent-invalid


Ohhhh shit

 

[masta247]

http://www.gsmarena.com/new_xiaomi_mitwo_handset_is_first_ever_with_quadcore_krait-news-4657.php

 

[masta247]

On a side note the new Google maps icon is really neat. Looks like a different icon style and I like it, they tried to make it very not-Applish and it looks great.

 

[S O F I]

so, i haven't been paying attention, but did we talk about samsung ripping off the iphone? something about internal documents and stuff.

 

[Pittsey]

so, i haven't been paying attention, but did we talk about samsung ripping off the iphone? something about internal documents and stuff.

We saw the documents.

I agree. Touchwiz looks and behaves like a fucking iphone. My SGS looked just like an iphone with the standard ROM. Not the design, but the software. Samusng were influenced by Apple when they designed their icons. They should have to remove them. And they should change the way the app drawer behaves too.

However. Apple can't patent rounded corners or the size of the bevel. I say can't but in the US it seems they can. They shouldn't be able.

 

[Casey]

Regardless of what TouchWiz looks like, Apple want bans against stock devices
like the Galaxy Nexus. That's where this is fucked up.

Anyway. Remember this post, because I am going to make a prediction right now.

I predict we will see a Nexus device manufactured by Sony this year.

Sony have been very supportive of Android - they've released
bootloader unlocking tools, they've taken risks on unproven projects
like Google TV (to date the only GTV device available outside the US is made by Sony)

They've contributed code to AOSP. And they've made some great devices,
nothing game changing but they have made some really solid
stuff.

I predict we will see evidence soon that Sony is deeply committed to Android
and as a result there will be a Sony Nexus.

I also think it's possible the PlayStation 4 will run an Android-based OS similar
to Google TV. And if they do that, the next stage of the console war
will see Sony with an advantage over Microsoft.

 

[Pittsey]

Regardless of what TouchWiz looks like, Apple want bans against stock devices
like the Galaxy Nexus. That's where this is fucked up.

I know. That's what annoys me. If they were going for the customisations on the SGS.... I'd see some logic there.

 

[Flipmo]

CM10 nightlies are going to start being released tonight.

https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/3gjXR6AoSa2

http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/general/cyanogenmod-10-nightlies-to-begin-r1061

Yay.

 

[Casey]

Win. Can't wait for some SGS2 action. The SGS2 on CM9 feels slow to me now, compared to the N7/Jelly Bean.

 

[masta247]

Looks like Casey's theory with Sony was spot on:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s_will_get_vanilla_android_as_a_google_experiment_-news-4669.php

All the fans of Sony Xperia S have a darn good reason to smile today. Google has launched an experiment to bring plain vanilla Android to Sony's top shelf smartphone. Jean-Baptiste Query (JBQ), Google's Technical Lead of the Android Open Source Project delivered the good news.

The reason for selecting the Sony Xperia S was simple according to JBQ: "it's a powerful current GSM device, with an unlockable bootloader, from a manufacturer that has always been very friendly to AOSP." Sony of course will have to play a role in the project as well, but given the company's good record with AOSP involvement, we doubt it will be an issue.

Google's project will essentially bring the Sony Xperia S into the privileged fold of the Nexus family of devices - a mighty great perspective, which is bound to make the handset a lot more attractive.

 

[ARon]

Casey's theory was talked about months ago when Google first announced they were going to use 5 manufacturers for the next line of Nexus devices

 

[THEV1LL4N]

Casey's theory was talked about months ago when Google first announced they were going to use 5 manufacturers for the next line of Nexus devices

I think there's a possibility that 5 Nexus devices did not mean 5 Nexus phones, but 1 Nexus Tablet, 1 Nexus Phone, 1 Nexus Q, 1 Nexus Google TV and 1 Nexus something else...

 

[masta247]

Casey's theory was talked about months ago when Google first announced they were going to use 5 manufacturers for the next line of Nexus devices

Well, the Xperia S is hardly a Nexus device though. I bet 95% of people won't even know/use Vanilla Android on it.

I said it was spot on because Google gave the same arguments behind Sony being so cool with Android as Casey did.

 

[Casey]

I think there's a possibility that 5 Nexus devices did not mean 5 Nexus phones, but 1 Nexus Tablet, 1 Nexus Phone, 1 Nexus Q, 1 Nexus Google TV and 1 Nexus something else...

I agree with this. I don't think there'd be 5 Nexus phones. That'd water down the program.

With regards to Sony, what it boils down to is that loyalty to the core ideals and philosophies of Android will get rewarded. Samsung has "won" the Nexus program for two years in a row because they made amazing devices and advertised the hell out of them. But Sony's devices aren't far behind and as a manufacturer they've been far more supportive of Android's philosophy. They've given pre-release ROMs to developers and shipped bootloader unlock tools way before anyone else. And they've released unique products, like the Xperia Play.

If Samsung get a third Nexus phone in a row..... there's going to be accusations of favouritism. Sammy are gonna sell millions of GS3's, GS4's, Note 2's regardless at this point. So I think it matters less to them to have a Nexus flagship this year. Plus, if Google's partnership helps make Sony devices more popular, it might deflect some of the inevitable lawsuits off Samsung from Apple. And the more companies Apple goes after, the weaker their legal precedence becomes, because more cracks will appear in their claims.

 

[THEV1LL4N]

I've been playing around with the SGS3 for a bit now and it's really impressive but something seems to be missing; plus I don't like TouchWiz.

My Dad now has my Mum's old HTC Wildfire. He previously had a Samsung Galaxy Portal (Spica) rooted and modded with a custom ROM. I think its a backwards step in a way because it has Sense UI and is slower and the RAM is used up mainly be Sense. The SG Portal was snappier and although had some software bugs was much nicer to use, simpler and was customised to remain fast.

 

[Pittsey]

I've been playing around with the SGS3 for a bit now and it's really impressive but something seems to be missing; plus I don't like TouchWiz.

That's why you install this .. . .

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817345

 

[masta247]

I like playing with the SGS3. It doesn't look great and you can't tell on paper but there's something that makes it feel super-snappy. Next to the HTC One X it feels so much faster for some reason - it launches things much faster and reacts to touch in a significantly nicer way - even without Jelly Bean it feels snappier than an Iphone.

 

[Rukas]

Friend has the SGS3, and it's a sexy phone, but once you use it, it's the same as the SGS2. Guess it's the same problem iPhone every generation. So Im hoping I can hold out to the SGS4 or something else.

 

[THEV1LL4N]

I'll be considering my options come Nexus release time. I'm a big fan of Samsung lately in the past few years so I was kinda hoping for one more Samsung Nexus phone. Let's see what Sony can do if they turn out to be the only new (or the only) Nexus manufacturer.