Oliver Stone: Jewish control of the media is preventing free Holocaust debate

[Rukas]

About time someone as respected as Oliver Stone said it....

Oliver Stone: Jewish control of the media is preventing free Holocaust debate - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

 

[Tha_Wood]

im looking forward to the movie. i think Hitler gets a pretty rough deal.

 

[Jokerman]

Where's Mel Gibson? Stone is just trying to steal the whacko spotlight from him. Get some publicity for his no-doubt usual incompetent-with-facts movie.

 

[Duke]

I don't see the points that Stone raised there as influenced by "the Jewish media". It's no secret that Nazi Germany had a lot of private and commercial backing from the USA, there's no Jewish conspiracy trying to keep a lid on that.

 

[Rukas]

I don't see the points that Stone raised there as influenced by "the Jewish media". It's no secret that Nazi Germany had a lot of private and commercial backing from the USA, there's no Jewish conspiracy trying to keep a lid on that.

Maybe not in Europe, but in America and Australia this type of thing is NEVER discussed and The Holocaust is pretty much taught as only being a genocide against Jews as if it was Germany vs. The Jews and that was what WW2 was about.

 

[Pittsey]

Oliver Stone is Jewish owned. As are most governments, and businesses. Hollywood is jewish owned, as is the music business.

Even the Illuminati is Jewish owned.

 

[Jokerman]

^Good point. Even Streethop is Jewish owned. Al Queda and Hamas are Jewish owned. The Nazis and Hitler were Jewish owned. The Universe and the black holes in it are Jewish owned.

 

[Jokerman]

The Holocaust is pretty much taught as only being a genocide against Jews as if it was Germany vs. The Jews and that was what WW2 was about.

In books or discussions of the Holocaust, focus is on the Jews because that's what genocide against Europe's jews during the war has come to be called, the Holocaust. Meanwhile, books or discussions about the Second World War are about everything that happened and everyone affected. The Holocaust is a specific subject: genocide of the Jews. It's not about who did the Nazis kill. Why, because no other group affected was targeted for total destruction like the Jews were. There are books about the Gypsy killings and the disabled and the Russians, Poles, gays, etc. And comprehensive histories go into it all. So i don't know why you say it isn't discussed.

Stone- "Hitler did far more damage to the Russians than the Jewish people, 25 or 30 [million killed]."

Did he target the Russians because they were Russians or was he fighting a war against them and wanted their country?

If 28 members of a 30-member family is killed by a madman, but he goes on to kill 100 other random people, is not the 28 killed from one family a special tragic case that goes beyond just numbers? Especially if he specifically targeted that family because they were something he hated, such as Jewish, while the other hundred were mostly law enforcement trying to stop him or those who had something he wanted or were seen as useless. Plus, this wasn’t the first time this family has been targeted by others; it’s happened all through history. You think that might be a special problem that goes beyond how many others were killed?

And the Jews don't think Hitler was responsible for it. They think anti-Semitism was, which is why they wanted a state of their own, even after Hitler and his followers were gone. So i don't know who's using Hitler as a scapegoat.

 

[Duke]

The Holocaust was truly unique in history in terms of size, organisation, idealogy and pure malevolence.

There has never, ever, been a genocide that reached Holocaustic proportions in those areas. Never. It stands on it's own at the top of a list of which you do not want to be at the top.

There's a very good reason so much attention is paid to the Holocaust, and it's not because the victims were Jewish.

 

[Pittsey]

Although I haven't been serious so far in this thread....


I understand the point made. The Holocaust is a subject you aren't allowed to discuss. If you doubt any part of it you instantly become an anti semetic jew hater. Over the years the numbers have been far greater than the amount that actually were killed. It was also used after the end of WW2 to get more land by the Israelis. I could go on and on with conspiracy theories... About the Illuminati, about the Rothchilds, about the Zionist movement.... But all I'd do is make myself look as mad as Mel.

 

[Duke]

Maybe a lot of people are touchy about the Holocaust, but of course it can and should be discussed.

On the whole, however, there are very few things about the Holocaust that can be doubted.

Does it really matter if they killed 4 or 5 million jews?

Did the Jews "abuse" the Holocaust to "get more land" (lol) or is it perhaps very plausible that the survivors were strewn about a destroyed continent with no idea whether their relaltives still lived?

I'm sure that in the years after WW2 there have been people that were simply missing instead of dead. That's a consequence of war, not malevolent thinking by the Zionist conspiracy.



The silly reason we know so much about the Holocaust in the end is because those organised Germans recorded themselves who they killed, who they were, where they were from etc etc etc.

The very thing that makes the Holocaust stand out so much is the same thing that makes it the best documented genocide in the history of humankind.

 

[Jokerman]

Oliver Stone apologizes for comments on Hitler, Jews - NYPOST.com

Director Oliver Stone apologized for comments he made in an interview in which he claimed that Jews dominate the media and suggested that Adolph Hitler’s actions during WWII should be put “into context,” Entertainment Weekly reported Tuesday.

In a statement issued by his publicist, Stone said, “In trying to make a broader historical point about the range of atrocities the Germans committed against many people, I made a clumsy association about the Holocaust, for which I am sorry and I regret.”

The statement continued: “Jews obviously do not control media or any other industry. The fact that the Holocaust is still a very important, vivid and current matter today is, in fact, a great credit to the very hard work of a broad coalition of people committed to the remembrance of this atrocity -- and it was an atrocity.”


The Jews that control Hollywood obviously got to him.

This one incident, both the callous initial statements and the laughably pathetic attempt to backpedal a day later, beautifully capture both the ugliness and the fundamental emptiness that characterize Hollywood "progressivism." Stone is a man so self-absorbed as to make throw away apologies for Hitler and Stalin in the same breath as he gives voice to age-old Jewish conspiracy theories, and so utterly without conviction that he reverses course in the next breath, offering up empty platitudes in recompense.

 

[Pittsey]

Oliver Stone apologizes for comments on Hitler, Jews - NYPOST.com

Director Oliver Stone apologized for comments he made in an interview in which he claimed that Jews dominate the media and suggested that Adolph Hitler’s actions during WWII should be put “into context,” Entertainment Weekly reported Tuesday.

In a statement issued by his publicist, Stone said, “In trying to make a broader historical point about the range of atrocities the Germans committed against many people, I made a clumsy association about the Holocaust, for which I am sorry and I regret.”

The statement continued: “Jews obviously do not control media or any other industry. The fact that the Holocaust is still a very important, vivid and current matter today is, in fact, a great credit to the very hard work of a broad coalition of people committed to the remembrance of this atrocity -- and it was an atrocity.”


The Jews that control Hollywood obviously got to him.

This one incident, both the callous initial statements and the laughably pathetic attempt to backpedal a day later, beautifully capture both the ugliness and the fundamental emptiness that characterize Hollywood "progressivism." Stone is a man so self-absorbed as to make throw away apologies for Hitler and Stalin in the same breath as he gives voice to age-old Jewish conspiracy theories, and so utterly without conviction that he reverses course in the next breath, offering up empty platitudes in recompense.

I agree that Oliver Stone is trying to stir up controversy for his film. But don't be so dismisive of the Jews that control Hollywood got to him. We all know how touchy religious people are, and it can't be argued that there area a lot of prominent Jews in Hollywood.

Jewish controlled media. - If anyone has plans of world domination it is News Corps', Rupert Murdoch.

 

[S O F I]

This one incident, both the callous initial statements and the laughably pathetic attempt to backpedal a day later, beautifully capture both the ugliness and the fundamental emptiness that characterize Hollywood "progressivism." Stone is a man so self-absorbed as to make throw away apologies for Hitler and Stalin in the same breath as he gives voice to age-old Jewish conspiracy theories, and so utterly without conviction that he reverses course in the next breath, offering up empty platitudes in recompense.

You write like Dan Brown.

 

[Tha_Wood]

yeh i remember in school, basically when WW2 was talked about it was about hoe evil hitler was, the jews dying and shit and if you even bought up a positive note on hitler your were silenced pretty fast.

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^what are the positives then? lol

 

[Pittsey]

^^what are the positives then? lol

Popular haicut, Original moustache styling.

He also developed the VW Beetle and made advances in science. Especially those in regards to the human brain.

 

[Da_Funk]

Yeah, well that doesn't really outweigh all the evil he did. Think how much farther medical science would be if we used live humans for experiments....

 

[Pittsey]

Yeah, well that doesn't really outweigh all the evil he did. Think how much farther medical science would be if we used live humans for experiments....

They do. All medicines have to be trialed on humans.

The moustache was his greatest achievement

 

[S O F I]

yeh i remember in school, basically when WW2 was talked about it was about hoe evil hitler was, the jews dying and shit and if you even bought up a positive note on hitler your were silenced pretty fast.

I think it's funny that people expect education up through high school to be satisfactory when it comes to knowledge of history. After high school, you've just gotten the rough outline of everything you're learning lol.