What was up with the 2pac still i rise album

#1
That had to be the strangest album ever realesed. I think it was like in 1998 it was just bizzare fatal hussein was erased from all the tracks, the album had very little promotion and the outlaws didnt go out and support or promote the album. It only had 1 video and released single. Just a strange album. I remeber when it came out it had no buzzz and it came out of no where.

I wonder if that was the official outlaw album that they were working on b4 pacs death or were they just a collection of bootleg songs swiched up by the outlaws.
 
#3
Yea the promotion was weak for Still I Rise.. I remember seeing a commercial for it on BET though like 2 weeks before it dropped...They played the Baby dont Cry Video for only a few days i think.. i doubt it made the BET top 10... and if did probaly debuted at like 8 and fell off..
 
#5
Still a great album though. Semi-classic imo. It's sad though. So many good songs on this LP should've been songs that filled up or took the places of the more weaker songs on albums like bd and uteot. Having pac share an lp with the outlawz didn't do or add anything to pac's or the outlaws' legacies. It was just a waste.

These songs could've added to uteot and created better lps and could've potentially made 2pac have classics under his belt after his death. So many potential singles for this lp, but so
many people didn't hear it because of not so strong promotion just like the "Thug Life" LP.
 
#6
Yea it was definately a good album.. It took me awhile to get used to it though cuz i was always used to the OG's... "Homeboyz","Hell 4 A Hustler" and "U Can Be Touched" are my favs off that.. I was dissappointed at "Secrets of War" though... :-/
 
#7
This album did not go under the dust either. The video did quite well on both BET & MTV. And the song also got good airplay on radio stations all over.

The commercial for the album with 2Pac's booklet picture from the lp of him taking off his shirt from the made niggaz video set use to come on quite often on BET while Hell 4 A Hustler played in the back. And I remember in like the 1st week or 2, the album was doing pretty well on the charts. The question is why didn't Amaru or the Outlawz follow up with another
video/single. And another question also is why didn't the Outlawz use this exposure to promote themselves.

btw, to me amaru became a weak advertiser after uteot.
 
#8
I remember the commercial on BET clearly cuz they played hell 4 a hustler.. ova here in the nj/nyc area it didnt get hardly any airplay.. I always used to listen to hot 97 at the job i was at then, and i think i heard Baby Dont Cry 2 or 3 times max... It was all about DMX then, his album dropped that week or around that time.I'm sure it did alot better in cali, the rest of the country, etc.
 

EDouble

Will suck off black men for a dime
#10
Fataldawg said:
It was all about DMX then, his album dropped that week or around that time.
Lol yup.. and then there was x!

i always remember still i rise droppn n shit! and i always lloved the cover :thumb:
 
#12
Well, I remember hearing "Baby Don't Cry" quite a few times on the Angie Martinez show or anytime during the evenings. Even Angie had said the 2pac & outlaws album was doing well.

^^^^I thought Tatoo Tearz and Secretz Of War were all pretty well done. I didn't understand why they were remixed because I thought the original tracks were pretty decent. Back then I had a concept of only the less sounding production tracks or the least liked beats to be remixed, but overall I was satisfied with the lp.
 
#13
From what I remember reading and hearing, Still I Rise didn't get much promotion in magazines and such because of some contract disputes. After Pac died, the Outlawz (with the exception of Fatal) signed with Death Row around late 1996 or early 1997, but they left Death Row shortly afterward. Supposedly Death Row dicked them over through the influence they had at the time with Interscope, through whom Still I Rise was released. Somehow, it limited the actual advertisement of the album to a rarely seen TV commercial on BET as someone mentioned earlier, which ended with Hell 4 a Hustler playing in the background, and an ad in a few rap magazines that was only around for a month or two. The Outlawz made an appearance on BET Rap City: Da Bassment with Big Tigger to promote it, but they were just being the incompetent idiots they normally are, just saying that same "we some Makaveli-trained soldiers, he's our general" crap. (I remember Kastro going, "Everybody, go out there and buy the album, please," almost sounding like he was going to break down and start crying.) The only video for the album, Baby Don't Cry, was played a few times on MTV and peaked at #9 on TRL, but fell off within a week. Despite having a beautiful booklet and decent material, they had a terrible cover and debuted behind DMX's ...And Then There Was X album, which sold 698,000 copies that week. I think Still I Rise sold in the vicinity of 400,000 copies that same week, which wasn't bad, and it eventually hit platinum. I was just disappointed that they cut Fatal not only out of every song he was originally on, but out of pictures as well. They even photoshopped him out and put other people over where he was. Lame, if you ask me.
 
#14
DeeezNuuuts83 said:
I was just disappointed that they cut Fatal not only out of every song he was originally on, but out of pictures as well. They even photoshopped him out and put other people over where he was. Lame, if you ask me.
Yea it is pretty fucked up.. I'm sure they paid him since he was credited though in the booklet for the songs he was on, wasnt he? How much you guys think the outlawz make for every pac album that drops? 5,000 a song? 50,000 a song? 5,000,000, a song(probaly not that)? I'm not sure of the music biz and all that and how it works.. any1 got any ideas? Are they dead broke or do yall think theyre living it up?
 
#15
Fataldawg said:
Yea it is pretty fucked up.. I'm sure they paid him since he was credited though in the booklet for the songs he was on, wasnt he? How much you guys think the outlawz make for every pac album that drops? 5,000 a song? 50,000 a song? 5,000,000, a song(probaly not that)? I'm not sure of the music biz and all that and how it works.. any1 got any ideas? Are they dead broke or do yall think theyre living it up?
Fatal said in an interview that despite being removed, he was indeed paid for his work... no word on whether he received money from Death Row in 1996 when the material was recorded, from Interscope in 1999 when the material was released or from the Outlawz under the table.
Regarding the Outlawz and their earnings, I truly doubt they are "living it up," but I'm sure they're at least living comfortably to the point where they can easily buy what they need and most of the stuff they want. I remember hearing that they made $5 off each copy sold of Ride wit Us or Collide wit Us, which was released independently and definitely sold more than 100,000 copies, so there's that, whatever they received from the last several Pac albums, Novakane (CD and DVD sales), Thug Angel soundtrack and other various albums (Thug Law compilations, solo albums, duet albums, guest appearances, etc.), so I'd assume that as a whole they've grossed a decent amount of money.
 

ArtsyGirl

Well-Known Member
#16
Thats fucked up, Why would they photoshop Fatal out of it all? Weird

Anyway I like Still I Rise has some great songs on it, some of the production is meh but I still love the lyrics and some of the songs are actually really good.
 
#17
artisticgurl said:
Thats fucked up, Why would they photoshop Fatal out of it all? Weird
...for the same reason that they cut out artists from OG Pac tracks and put themselves in their place: they are greedy idiots who think they can do everything but end up pleasing no one.

Read this post of mine where I specifically talk about the pictures where they took Fatal out, if you're interested:

http://www.streethop.com/forum/showthread.php?p=430947#post430947
 
#19
2PacThug4Life said:
Still I Rise is a pretty good album. My favorite album put out by Amaru after Pac died. Tha album has kind of a weird vibe, because it wasn't promoted though.
It wasn't technically put out by Amaru though, based on the fact that "Amaru Records" appears nowhere outside of the thank yous... I think it was more of an Outlawz effort through Interscope Records with Afeni's blessing
 

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