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masta247

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Damn, I'm on pre-paid because I'd have to pay like 100$ a month for 24 months to get the SGS3 for free here, with a plan about as good as 20$/month pre-paid.
Looks like you get decent deals for phones in England.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
I pay £28 a month.

Free handset.
600 mins
Unlimited Texts
1 GB data
Oh my fuck that is so damn cheap. Please tell me there's some sort of tradeoff between a US plan. Are your speeds fast or are they on EDGE? Is there overage charges for going over 1GB of data or does it just bump you down in speed?

I had Verizon, by myself, for four years and I paid $100 for 450 minutes, unlimited text and data at 3G speeds. I used under 300 minutes a month, between 2.8-just over 5GB of data a month, if I remember correctly.
People say it's hard to go over even 2 GB of data. I didn't sit on my phone all day, but it did sync a lot of things like Google and Facebook notifications. And there was a weather widget that refreshed every 30 minutes, but would that really add up to over 3GB a month?

My parents are on Sprint now and I'm not sure how much they pay for the three lines they have on their family plan. I think it's near $200 for three people, which is still about $75 a person, with tax, for 3000 minutes shared between the three and unlimited texting and data for all.
 

Pittsey

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Oh my fuck that is so damn cheap. Please tell me there's some sort of tradeoff between a US plan. Are your speeds fast or are they on EDGE? Is there overage charges for going over 1GB of data or does it just bump you down in speed?

I had Verizon, by myself, for four years and I paid $100 for 450 minutes, unlimited text and data at 3G speeds. I used under 300 minutes a month, between 2.8-just over 5GB of data a month, if I remember correctly.
People say it's hard to go over even 2 GB of data. I didn't sit on my phone all day, but it did sync a lot of things like Google and Facebook notifications. And there was a weather widget that refreshed every 30 minutes, but would that really add up to over 3GB a month?

My parents are on Sprint now and I'm not sure how much they pay for the three lines they have on their family plan. I think it's near $200 for three people, which is still about $75 a person, with tax, for 3000 minutes shared between the three and unlimited texting and data for all.
I get HSDPA everywhere I go. If I go near my 1GB allowance which I have only done once, I get an email informing me, and telling me if I go over I have to buy another GB of data for £5.
 

Cooper

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Oh my fuck that is so damn cheap. Please tell me there's some sort of tradeoff between a US plan. Are your speeds fast or are they on EDGE? Is there overage charges for going over 1GB of data or does it just bump you down in speed?

I had Verizon, by myself, for four years and I paid $100 for 450 minutes, unlimited text and data at 3G speeds. I used under 300 minutes a month, between 2.8-just over 5GB of data a month, if I remember correctly.
People say it's hard to go over even 2 GB of data. I didn't sit on my phone all day, but it did sync a lot of things like Google and Facebook notifications. And there was a weather widget that refreshed every 30 minutes, but would that really add up to over 3GB a month?

My parents are on Sprint now and I'm not sure how much they pay for the three lines they have on their family plan. I think it's near $200 for three people, which is still about $75 a person, with tax, for 3000 minutes shared between the three and unlimited texting and data for all.
Not really any negatives I can think of. I pay £32 and have unlimited data too, and it includes insurance (Orange insurance is by far the best I've experienced. You get a replacement next day). No limits on internet speeds (the concept of that sounds retarded to someone in the UK). I usually use 2-3gb a month but it's gone up since I got my tablet, maybe 4 now. I don't check but assume most of my data usage comes from Music.
 

Casey

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I pay £30 a month. Unlimited data - get high speed HSDPA pretty much everywhere. More minutes than I've ever come close to using. More texts than I've ever come close to using. Crazy thing, I've been on this plan for at least 3 years. I am sure I can get an even better plan. When the next Nexus comes out, I will be telling T-Mobile that I am leaving. If they keep me on the same plan for £10 less a month, I may stay.

The cost of buying a phone outright and going on GiffGaff may be cheaper/work out more beneficial.

GiffGaff offers 250 minutes, Unlimited texts and unlimited data for £10 a month..... and the real kicker? No contract. So let's say you buy a new premium phone at the cost of £400...... over the course of one year you'd pay £520 total for the the phone and the network service. Chances are the phone would still be worth £300 in a year - leaving you free to sell it and get a new phone again for £100.

Yep, we get pretty kick ass deals here in the UK :)

When the next Nexus phone hits, I'll let you all know what I decide to do. I'm so impressed with my Nexus 7 that it's only Nexus devices for me from now on. It's nice to know that I have a device that will be the first to get updated, come December.
 

masta247

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You bastards around the world. Cell plans in Canada are at cocaine prices.
They're worse here. In Canada I was with 7-eleven SpeakOut, lol. It seriously ruled. Unlimited internet for 10$, unlimited texts for 10$. Calls were cheap too and no charges for incoming calls. I survived paying 25$ in total for maintaining my Canadian number for a month a year ago and I used my phone a lot at that time. To be fair I didn't call that much though - I mostly used it for the internet and texts and longer calls via Skype.

I wish I could find something like that in the US.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
You bastards around the world. Cell plans in Canada are at cocaine prices.
The Economist also said that Cocaine prices in England are the cheapest in Europe. So... They are probably linked...

Also.... Using minutes for incoming calls is the weirdest phenomenon I have ever heard...!
 

THEV1LL4N

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I pay £30 a month. Unlimited data - get high speed HSDPA pretty much everywhere. More minutes than I've ever come close to using. More texts than I've ever come close to using. Crazy thing, I've been on this plan for at least 3 years. I am sure I can get an even better plan. When the next Nexus comes out, I will be telling T-Mobile that I am leaving. If they keep me on the same plan for £10 less a month, I may stay.

The cost of buying a phone outright and going on GiffGaff may be cheaper/work out more beneficial.

GiffGaff offers 250 minutes, Unlimited texts and unlimited data for £10 a month..... and the real kicker? No contract. So let's say you buy a new premium phone at the cost of £400...... over the course of one year you'd pay £520 total for the the phone and the network service. Chances are the phone would still be worth £300 in a year - leaving you free to sell it and get a new phone again for £100.

Yep, we get pretty kick ass deals here in the UK :)

When the next Nexus phone hits, I'll let you all know what I decide to do. I'm so impressed with my Nexus 7 that it's only Nexus devices for me from now on. It's nice to know that I have a device that will be the first to get updated, come December.
Only thing there is that chances are the Nexus phones will be Nexus versions of manufacturers' flagship devices (i.e. what the Galaxy Nexus was to the S2). Could buying the flagship device (i.e. for a Samsung - getting the SGS3 and flashing a ROM be cheaper and better than getting the Nexus version? Not to mention the fact that for that hardware, you'd be getting it a few months earlier if getting the SGS3 and not the Samsung Nexus device for JB)...
 

Casey

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Only thing there is that chances are the Nexus phones will be Nexus versions of manufacturers' flagship devices (i.e. what the Galaxy Nexus was to the S2). Could buying the flagship device (i.e. for a Samsung - getting the SGS3 and flashing a ROM be cheaper and better than getting the Nexus version? Not to mention the fact that for that hardware, you'd be getting it a few months earlier if getting the SGS3 and not the Samsung Nexus device for JB)...
Thanks to a close connection in a major electronics chain, I can get any device outright
at cost price. For example, the S3 retails at 500, I can get it brand new sealed for 380.

And the Galaxy Nexus was in some ways superior to the S2 - bigger screen and NFC chip. Not to mention, it shipped with ICS in Dec, the official S2 ICS update was something like April, and there wasn't even a functional ROM until end of February. And the GNex has had Jelly Bean for almost a month already..... probably still a couple weeks away from seeing a really solid CM10 build for the S2.

So it totally depends on your priorities. I know that I'm gonna get Android 5.0 instantly on my N7 and I have a hunch it's gonna be so awesome that I'll want it on my phone straight away. My contract is up in December anyway, so the logical move is to get the next Nexus phone.

As far as hardware, we have no idea who is gonna manufacture the next Nexus phone. It's even possible that we may see more than one Nexus phone this year. The rumor was 5 Nexus devices and Android 5.0 for the fifth anniversary of Android. That means Nexus 7, Nexus Q, perhaps a Nexus 10 tablet, the next Nexus phone, and then.....?
 

THEV1LL4N

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Yea it's looking more likely that it won't be 5 Nexus phones, probably more like 5 Nexus devices. But hey, if it is in fact 5 Nexus phones (Samsung, HTC, Sony, Motorola, LG) then I wouldn't have a problem with that. Some seem to think that it'll be Motorola this year since the acquisition of Motorola Mobility finally went through.

Maybe they could do a Nexus Glass Dildo that would be better than the iPad. It could come flavoured in the dessert beginning with K (i.e. Kiwi)

 

Flipmo

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Speaking of Motorola.

Motorola cutting 4,000 jobs, will launch just a few devices this year

By Ian Hardy on August 13, 2012 at 7:41am in Mobile News


Google officially took hold of Motorola back on May 22nd in a blockbuster $12.5 billion deal. At the same time Sanjay Jha, CEO of Motorola Mobility, stepped down. There was no word on if, or when, the layoff would be, but Google noted that “our aim is simple: to focus Motorola Mobility’s remarkable talent on fewer, bigger bets, and create wonderful devices that are used by people around the world.”

According to the New York Times the moment of truth has arrived for Motorola employees. Apparently 20% of their work force – which is 4,000 people – will get pink slips, plus they’ll close a over 30 offices worldwide. No indication of Canadians being impacted, but 1/3 of the 4,000 job cuts will be in the United States, as well as from Asia and India.

As for future handset, less is the new trend. Dennis Woodside, Motorola’s CEO, said to the NYT that they will launch “just a few” devices this year, which is significantly less than the 27 they released last year.
“He wants to make the company’s products cool again by loading them with things like sensors that recognize who is in a room based on their voices, cameras that take crisper photos and batteries that last for days.”

Source: NYT
Via: Engadget
 

masta247

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Yeah I saw this. It made me think that Motorola have no phones that matter this year (do they have like.. anything?). I'm not sure if they're yet to release something cool this year or not since there are no rumors. Since they belong to Google now and they mostly earn cash by selling mobile phones it seems like they're failing big time.
 

Casey

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http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/14/android-is-winning/

Android Is Winning

MATT BURNS

posted 9 hours ago

The latest numbers are in: Android is on top, followed by iOS in a distant second.
This word comes from Gartner, a top research firm for these sorts of things. Overall, within the last quarter, Android outsold iOS devices nearly three to one while capturing 64% of the worldwide market share. Samsung was the top dog accounting for 90M handset sales.
There is no denying Android’s dominance anymore. There is no way even the most rabid Apple fanboy can deny that iOS is in second place now. Android is winning.
This report by Gartner looked at the second quarter smartphone sales. That pegs the date range from April to June, which admittedly was a high point for Android while iPhone sales were starting to cool down. The Samsung Galaxy S III launched in late May, likely accounting for a good chunk of Samsung’s haul. It was a great quarter for Android and Samsung.
Gartner’s Q1 report notes similar rankings with Samsung and Android on top, too. At that time, Samsung had just overtaken Nokia as the top worldwide seller of mobile devices. Android was hovering around in the mid fifty percent range in the market share pie, and Apple had its second best iPhone quarter ever with 33M units sold (Apple sold 37M in the previous quarter). But now we have a clearer image and Android is securely positioned at the top of the mobile mountain.
As the Gartner report shows, iPhone sales were a bit off during the second quarter. They are probably even worse right now. Apple CEO Tim Cook noted in the last financial report that iPhone sales are falling victim to the iPhone 5 rumor mill. Consumers are simply (and wisely) not buying iPhones as much right now when it’s clear a new one is right around the corner. In fact iOS’ market share only improved nominally year-over-year.
During Apple’s best iPhone quarter, Q1 of 2012, the company moved 33M iPhones — an impressive feat considering there are only three models. Now, during Android’s best quarter, there were 98M units sold. There is simply no comparison. There is no way to spin these numbers. The iPhone 5 will likely light up Apple’s holiday quarter, but Samsung, Motorola, LG, and HTC combined Android units numbers will account for more units. In fact, Samsung alone might move units than Apple.
This war is starting to heat up. It’s no longer just a playground fight between fanboys. Developers cannot ignore Android. The old mantra of releasing on iOS and then eventually hitting Android needs to be rethought. Google also needs to step up its game. Google Play is a mess and Android has a very big problem with piracy. Android the ecosystem still sucks, but Android the mobile platform is winning.
 

masta247

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Is there any way of getting the 8GB Nexus 7 in the US other than online throught the Google Play store? The 199$ price tag is appealing and I don't need more than 8gb but I'd rather not order it online (I'll be renting an apartment for a rather short term and will travel a lot and I think that can be a problem).

Also, I just saw that the Galaxy Nexus is there for 349$. That's a good price for an unbranded phone straight from Google.
 

Pittsey

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Is there any way of getting the 8GB Nexus 7 in the US other than online throught the Google Play store? The 199$ price tag is appealing and I don't need more than 8gb but I'd rather not order it online (I'll be renting an apartment for a rather short term and will travel a lot and I think that can be a problem).

Also, I just saw that the Galaxy Nexus is there for 349$. That's a good price for an unbranded phone straight from Google.
They are good prices at my exchange rate.... :)

But I am not coming to the USA in the near future.
 

Casey

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Is there any way of getting the 8GB Nexus 7 in the US other than online throught the Google Play store? The 199$ price tag is appealing and I don't need more than 8gb but I'd rather not order it online (I'll be renting an apartment for a rather short term and will travel a lot and I think that can be a problem).

Also, I just saw that the Galaxy Nexus is there for 349$. That's a good price for an unbranded phone straight from Google.
8GB is only really supposed to be sold online I believe although I did see some reports that some stores had it.

I think it's worth springing the extra cash for the 16GB. After the OS and system apps you only get something like 5.5GB of space for your own apps, data, and music on the 8GB model.
 

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