Me. And life.

[keco52]

Have a look at your pictures. You certainly don't look and act white. Check yourself.

At first I thought you just had a difference of opinion which was kind of refreshing...but with that statement I realize you're just plain ignorant.

 

[Devious]

First off all, you wouldn't this just like I wouldn't have known if you would have sex with rondum guy or whateveer, had you not said what you said that lead me to beleive that about you.

Secondly, I didn't say he acts black in my second post. I said he imitates blacks. Like devious said, you can't act certain race. But I admit making mistake saying that in the first place. You can only act whatever race you are therefore you can't act other race that you're not. White man can't act black or vice versa because its who you are and theres no outside of you or anything but who you are. You can't define how someone acts. Its just who they are and what they do. However, you can imitate blacks. Imitating involves being one thing and doing another. Being white (one thing) and imitating to be black (doing another).

The bottom line is, there are some coward ass licking members in here who are afraid to speak their mind about something. (no this aint revololutionary post). They rather let it slide and conceal because they are afraid they will be lose the touch with the internet and be banned and whatnot. I bet if any of you saw rukas white look alike in streets walking down wearing all beggy clothes, long t-shirts with iced out and long chains, clowning in front of the people like holding drinks like hes having a blast or whatnot, you would think this guy is a clown and wigger who tries way too hard to imitate others.

LMAO. i swear Bach, you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper every time you post. i thought it was ridiculous when you said Ruk was acting black, but this is even dumber man. how do you imitate someone or something? by acting like it! and since you can't act like a race, how can you imitate it? i mean, did you see pictures of Ruk in blackface or something? if your idea of acting, or should i say imitating, blacks is to wear baggy clothes and talk using slang, then you are sadly mistaken about the black race, since they do not all do that and act that way.

i think you have a lot of preconceived negative views of the world (women and black people for starters) that you need to re-evaluate, because you are really starting to sound ignorant and offensive.

 

[S O F I]

Bach's views don't surprise me at all. If you are from a less developed European or African country, you know that lots of people share the same similar views. He's just a product of his environment, although he probably lives in the US. But, your views on life don't change upon entering another country. It's a shame that he doesn't take this streethop online time which is away from his niche and try to open his mind up to new ways of looking at things.

 

[Bachaveli]

LMAO. i swear Bach, you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper every time you post. i thought it was ridiculous when you said Ruk was acting black, but this is even dumber man. how do you imitate someone or something? by acting like it! and since you can't act like a race, how can you imitate it? i mean, did you see pictures of Ruk in blackface or something? if your idea of acting, or should i say imitating, blacks is to wear baggy clothes and talk using slang, then you are sadly mistaken about the black race, since they do not all do that and act that way.

i think you have a lot of preconceived negative views of the world (women and black people for starters) that you need to re-evaluate, because you are really starting to sound ignorant and offensive.

You're just clowning around trying to lose the focus on what is really being said here. You're going with different direction with that. I didn't say all blacks wear beggy clothes or use slang. I didn't even said blacks wear beggy clothes or use slang in that matter. So I don't know why you assume I did. Read carefully again what I said.
No, not all blacks are like that. But some are (now I said it). But some are. But the ones that do wear are either blacks or wanna be blacks. Why do you think is that? Maybe because it was blacks who started the whole rap thing and it was them who introduced this style of outfit; the beggy clothes and the long t's and chains down to their pennis... So the men in other races saw and liked this style and so they started doing the same wearing beggys exc... So does that not mean they imitated them? I think so.

 

[Devious]

You're just clowning around trying to lose the focus on what is really being said here. You're going with different direction with that. I didn't say all blacks wear beggy clothes or use slang. I didn't even said blacks wear beggy clothes or use slang in that matter. So I don't know why you assume I did. Read carefully again what I said.
No, not all blacks are like that. But some are (now I said it). But some are. But the ones that do wear are either blacks or wanna be blacks. Why do you think is that? Maybe because it was blacks who started the whole rap thing and it was them who introduced this style of outfit; the beggy clothes and the long t's and chains down to their pennis... So the men in other races saw and liked this style and so they started doing the same wearing beggys exc... So does that not mean they imitated them? I think so.

they imitated the style and the fashion, and even the slang of rap music, yes. but just because the majority of rappers are black, that doesn't mean that anyone who listens to the music or imitates the dress or slang is trying to be black. if anything they are imitating the rappers, who happen to be black. they are in no way trying to be black, or acting black, or even imitating being black. if you can't see the difference between following a trend and trying to imitate a race, then i can't help you.

i mean, would you say a black man who dresses in skater clothing and listens to punk music is trying to be white? try to use reason and think about what you say before you come out and say it and make yourself look ridiculous. and also don't forget that you are a white (i assume) person on a hip-hop board with mostly white members. i guess we all (yourself included) are trying to be black right? i'm sure a lot of us dress in the style of hip-hop, most of us use slang, and shockingly enough, some even wear jewelry! what a bunch of wannabes we all are, huh?

 

[Synful*Luv]

You're just clowning around trying to lose the focus on what is really being said here. You're going with different direction with that. I didn't say all blacks wear beggy clothes or use slang. I didn't even said blacks wear beggy clothes or use slang in that matter. So I don't know why you assume I did. Read carefully again what I said.
No, not all blacks are like that. But some are (now I said it). But some are. But the ones that do wear are either blacks or wanna be blacks. Why do you think is that? Maybe because it was blacks who started the whole rap thing and it was them who introduced this style of outfit; the beggy clothes and the long t's and chains down to their pennis... So the men in other races saw and liked this style and so they started doing the same wearing beggys exc... So does that not mean they imitated them? I think so.

It's not a black way of dressing. It's called "urban fashion" it's fashion that is usually worn by people who live in an urban area. I know just as many White/Asian/Latino/Middle Eastern people who dress urban as Black people. That's not a race thing.

 

[Preach]

Bach's views don't surprise me at all. If you are from a less developed European or African country, you know that lots of people share the same similar views. He's just a product of his environment, although he probably lives in the US. But, your views on life don't change upon entering another country. It's a shame that he doesn't take this streethop online time which is away from his niche and try to open his mind up to new ways of looking at things.

:thumb:

 

[PuffnScruff]

i wake up, look at this thread an it is like 7 pages deep. i leave home, go to work, come home, and now it is almost 12 pages long. i want to close this but it is entertaining.

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Just do it.

 

[Bachaveli]

they imitated the style and the fashion, and even the slang of rap music, yes. but just because the majority of rappers are black, that doesn't mean that anyone who listens to the music or imitates the dress or slang is trying to be black. if anything they are imitating the rappers, who happen to be black. they are in no way trying to be black, or acting black, or even imitating being black. if you can't see the difference between following a trend and trying to imitate a race, then i can't help you.

i mean, would you say a black man who dresses in skater clothing and listens to punk music is trying to be white? try to use reason and think about what you say before you come out and say it and make yourself look ridiculous. and also don't forget that you are a white (i assume) person on a hip-hop board with mostly white members. i guess we all (yourself included) are trying to be black right? i'm sure a lot of us dress in the style of hip-hop, most of us use slang, and shockingly enough, some even wear jewelry! what a bunch of wannabes we all are, huh?

I see what you are saying. Yea they are imitating fashion and style but at the same time they are essentially imitating what some black culture is like. Because like I said whites usually don't wear and dress like that. Those who do are the ones who are imitating. 1+2+3=6

It's not a black way of dressing. It's called "urban fashion" it's fashion that is usually worn by people who live in an urban area. I know just as many White/Asian/Latino/Middle Eastern people who dress urban as Black people. That's not a race thing.

Ask them where did they got the idea from wearing urban clothes and I'm sure they won't tell you from white culture.

 

[Synful*Luv]

I see what you are saying. Yea they are imitating fashion and style but at the same time they are essentially imitating what some black culture is like. Because like I said whites usually don't wear and dress like that. Those who do are the ones who are imitating. 1+2+3=6


Ask them where did they got the idea from wearing urban clothes and I'm sure they won't tell you from white culture.

I didn't say they were imitating "White culture" they are simply dressing in a way that's appealing to them. It's not a part of "Black culture" saying that would me that every Black person (Jamaicans, Haitians, Cubans, Ricans,Dominicans, Africans, etc) dresses in an urban manner, because it's a part of "our culture" and that's BS. 90% of the men in Haiti and the DR wouldn't be caught dead in that type of clothing. Hell, the majority of the Black Americans I know wouldn't dress in that manner. What you are saying is that anyone, including Rukas, who dresses urban doesn't have a mind of his or her own and is dressing in a way that mimics a poorly thought out stereotype? That's ridiculous. Anyone who dresses urban doesn't have a mind of their own? I'll give you perhaps teens and children and imitating their favorite rapper.... but that's as far as your statement can logically go.

 

[Devious]

I see what you are saying. Yea they are imitating fashion and style but at the same time they are essentially imitating what some black culture is like. Because like I said whites usually don't wear and dress like that. Those who do are the ones who are imitating. 1+2+3=6


Ask them where did they got the idea from wearing urban clothes and I'm sure they won't tell you from white culture.

well first of all, you are off again because hip-hop is not black culture, it is what some black people chose to do. you can say hip-hop is a part of black culture, but it is not black culture. and these people you speak of are imitating the style, not the race. you are so mixed up with the fact that most rappers are black that you assume any attempt of any other culture to follow that trend is just them trying to imitate that race. that is not the case.

but what i really want to know is what is so wrong with different cultures and races adopting from each other? why is it so bad that whites, latinos, asians and others are following a trend started by black people? why do we have to stick to our own races and what they do? because it sounds to me like you're saying whites should stick with whites, blacks with blacks, asians with asians, etc. aka segregation.

 

[Bachaveli]

I didn't say they were imitating "White culture" they are simply dressing in a way that's appealing to them. It's not a part of "Black culture" saying that would me that every Black person (Jamaicans, Haitians, Cubans, Ricans,Dominicans, Africans, etc) dresses in an urban manner, because it's a part of "our culture" and that's BS. 90% of the men in Haiti and the DR wouldn't be caught dead in that type of clothing. Hell, the majority of the Black Americans I know wouldn't dress in that manner. What you are saying is that anyone, including Rukas, who dresses urban doesn't have a mind of his or her own and is dressing in a way that mimics a poorly thought out stereotype? That's ridiculous. Anyone who dresses urban doesn't have a mind of their own? I'll give you perhaps teens and children and imitating their favorite rapper.... but that's as far as your statement can logically go.

Nope, didn't say they don't have a mind of their own. Wasn't me. Read carefully again and don't put words in my mouth. Nice try though.

You and devious look at it in a way thats different from how I see it. This is how I look at it and this is what I believe.

 

[Bachaveli]

well first of all, you are off again because hip-hop is not black culture, it is what some black people chose to do. you can say hip-hop is a part of black culture, but it is not black culture. and these people you speak of are imitating the style, not the race. you are so mixed up with the fact that most rappers are black that you assume any attempt of any other culture to follow that trend is just them trying to imitate that race. that is not the case.

but what i really want to know is what is so wrong with different cultures and races adopting from each other? why is it so bad that whites, latinos, asians and others are following a trend started by black people? why do we have to stick to our own races and what they do? because it sounds to me like you're saying whites should stick with whites, blacks with blacks, asians with asians, etc. aka segregation.

Point me where I said hip hop is all black culture. Didn't think so.

You see it as they are imitating the style while I see it as they are imitating the style which essentially means they are imitating the culture itself which happends to be blacks.

Didn't say it was bad to like and adopt other cultures. However, you should maintain your identity. You should be yourself. Anything less than that is not cool.

 

[keco52]

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[Devious]

Point me where I said hip hop is all black culture. Didn't think so.

You see it as they are imitating the style while I see it as they are imitating the style which essentially means they are imitating the culture itself which happends to be blacks.

Didn't say it was bad to like and adopt other cultures. However, you should maintain your identity. You should be yourself. Anything less than that is not cool.

so if you follow any part of another race's culture, not all their culture but just one tiny facet of it, that means you're trying to imitate that race or that culture? come on man, that's just ridiculous.

and who says that just because you dress a certain way that means you're not being yourself? your personality determines who you are, not the fact that you wear baggy jeans and some bling. i don't wear the clothes i wear because i want to be like somebody else, i wear them because i like them. what i choose to wear has no bearing whatsoever on who i am as a person, and it doesn't change me to put on a hoody and baggy jeans, or shorts and a t-shirt, or a suit and tie, i'm still the same person. i'm not imitating any race or culture, i'm being myself.

 

[Preach]

and who says that just because you dress a certain way that means you're not being yourself? your personality determines who you are, not the fact that you wear baggy jeans and some bling. i don't wear the clothes i wear because i want to be like somebody else, i wear them because i like them. what i choose to wear has no bearing whatsoever on who i am as a person, and it doesn't change me to put on a hoody and baggy jeans, or shorts and a t-shirt, or a suit and tie, i'm still the same person. i'm not imitating any race or culture, i'm being myself.

i like what you said here.

 

[Bachaveli]

so if you imitate any part of another race's culture, not all their culture but just one tiny facet of it, that means you're trying to imitate that race or that culture? come on man, that's just ridiculous.

and who says that just because you dress a certain way that means you're not being yourself? your personality determines who you are, not the fact that you wear baggy jeans and some bling. i don't wear the clothes i wear because i want to be like somebody else, i wear them because i like them. what i choose to wear has no bearing whatsoever on who i am as a person, and it doesn't change me to put on a hoody and baggy jeans, or shorts and a t-shirt, or a suit and tie, i'm still the same person. i'm not imitating any race or culture, i'm being myself.

Um pretty much yea essentially thats what it means...

While its true what you said about being yourself... that doesn't always work like that. If I were to wear tight leather clothes with cowboy hat and shoes on and hold a rope in my hand, would you say I'm an scientist or biologist?

 

[PuffnScruff]

this thread bores me now

 

[Rukas]

I'm on my sidekick so there's way too much to write. But I'll respond to this nincompoop when I get on a PC. For now I'm going to go imitate mexican culture and have a barito.