Illuminati, Secret Societies & Shadow Governments - Your Opinion Please !?

[tupac4li4e]

I'd like to know who of you, that have ever read a post or thread of mine (especially the Charlie Sheen VS Barrack Obama thread), believe or do not believe that the "free world" as we know it is controlled and manipulated by Secret Societies such as the Illuminati ?

Just a simple, yes, no or maybe so is all that I ask for now. But if you want to start putting in now, that's cool as well.

If you beefers and haters don't reply that's cool, but seeing as all I want is a one word answer for now, if you can't even do that, I win *jokes*

After I get some responses from the main people I am seeking them from I will start posting some info on what and why I think that way. EVERYONE is invited to input or comment though. Yep, even you Chronic, even though you closed my last thread on this subject

So stay tuned. Hopefully we can make this an enlightening thread for all, I would much prefer to keep this beef free too, as I'm vegetarian

*opens up media player and plays MUSE - UPRISING followed by GREENDAY - WORKING CLASS HERO*

So far, from the other closed thread we have Sebastian coming in at "Hell fucking no!" and Prize Gotti coming in at "Yes I believe in such societies, I did extensive research on the Illuminati and Freemasons at school. I also discovered there were several Freemasons in my family history" and last but *censored* not least Chronic coming in at "I don't know".

*waits for thread to be closed again*

What do YOU think ?

 

[Duke]

Are there groups of people, organizations, individuals behind the curtains that have a large influence on things?

Of course.


Are we globally manipulated by an all-encompassing secret society?

No.

 

[tupac4li4e]

Are there groups of people, organizations, individuals behind the curtains that have a large influence on things?

Of course.


Are we globally manipulated by an all-encompassing secret society?

No.

In your opinion.....thanks I'll be in touch

 

[Glockmatic]

There are secret societies.

They don't control the world.

 

[tupac4li4e]

There are secret societies.

They don't control the world.

Thanks for your input Glock

 

[masta247]

What Duke and Glockmatic said.
There are people trying to "keep our world in balance" - governments, known organizations etc.

There are no "super top secret societies controlling everything and everyone and nobody knows about them".
Oh and if they controlled politicians, presidents and military generals they would make them look more professional lol

 

[yak pac fatal]

i used to never believe in secret societies and what not then i stumbled on some videos on the internet and yea lol you know the story after that.

 

[Bender]

I'd like to know who of you, that have ever read a post or thread of mine (especially the Charlie Sheen VS Barrack Obama thread), believe or do not believe that the "free world" as we know it is controlled and manipulated by Secret Societies such as the Illuminati ?


*opens up media player and plays MUSE - UPRISING*

lol @ 'my rep power is 1 yo'


before i answer the question though, i have and also been listening to Muse's Uprising album and relates to this thread a lot, and is a good album besides

the content in The Uprising album has many similarities to George Orwell's book 1984, a book ridiculed with a story about a higher power controlling society. looking at secret societies in this way makes it easier to believe that there are such organisations that do exist.

everywhere people go now there is surveillance of every kind, i'd have to be a ninja of somekind just to go to the corner shop to buy some crumpets and not be seen on a camera. the whole concept of surveillance poses a big element of contol over people, and it is distributed as a means of an illusion of safety.

yes i do believe that there are organisations that set out to control society, for without order in society there would be chaos. the question though is are these secret organisations setting out to control organised chaos as a means of retaining power?

 

[ill-matic]

sorta

 

[tupac4li4e]

lol @ 'my rep power is 1 yo'


before i answer the question though, i have and also been listening to Muse's Uprising album and relates to this thread a lot, and is a good album besides

the content in The Uprising album has many similarities to George Orwell's book 1984, a book ridiculed with a story about a higher power controlling society. looking at secret societies in this way makes it easier to believe that there are such organisations that do exist.

everywhere people go now there is surveillance of every kind, i'd have to be a ninja of somekind just to go to the corner shop to buy some crumpets and not be seen on a camera. the whole concept of surveillance poses a big element of contol over people, and it is distributed as a means of an illusion of safety.

yes i do believe that there are organisations that set out to control society, for without order in society there would be chaos. the question though is are these secret organisations setting out to control organised chaos as a means of retaining power?

Much love to my boy Yeshua, a very intelligent reply IMO.

Thanks

 

[linx]

I don't really feel like typing a lot about the issue right now, but yes.. I believe in secret societies. I don't think they're 100% in control of the world, but they are somewhat.

 

[Illuminattile]

If there really were secret societies controlling the world, we wouldn't know about it.

 

[linx]

If there really were secret societies controlling the world, we wouldn't know about it.

You think they'd really remain a secret though? You don't think some of the people that are members of these "secret societies" eventually get tired of it and want out? I have an interesting interview with someone that was supposedly in one actually. Let me see if I can find it and upload it. It's long, but worth it if you're interested.

Edit: Here it is.. http://www.zshare.net/audio/671900998820fdb5/

Here's a website with her stuff.. http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/svali_speaks.htm

She basically speaks on how she was born into the Illuminati. She mentions the training that goes on. The rituals, ceremonies, etc. Again, it's cool IF you're interested.

 

[Duke]

^ IF it's true.

 

[masta247]

^ IF it's true.

Which I doubt.

Illuminati is a major bullshit to me. I remember reading about it back in the days and was quite fascinated until I understood how stupid it was.

If there are important groups of people that we do not know about and control more than those we know they don't have much to do with Illuminati, NWO and such.

It's really hard to find anything interesting and on point since most sources = total bullcrap for total idiots written by idiots living in their own terrible world.

 

[Illuminattile]

The real Illuminati were a perfect example of why "secret societies" are incapable of running the world the way conspiracy theorists like to think they do.

 

[Duke]

5 Pathetic Groups That People Think Rule the World | Cracked.com

 

[masta247]

LOL!

especially at this:

So every single ideological difference you think there is between political parties, competing companies and even the makers of your favorite TV shows, is fake. In reality, they all meet behind the scenes, with perfect secrecy, with perfect cooperation, to control everything. They're having round-table meetings in the penthouses of five-star hotels where they decide that America needs a terrorist attack this year while using their sinister connections to implant secret messages into Hannah Montana songs.

And holy crap lmao at these:

PublicEye.org - Primary Document Archive: Conspiracism and Antisemitism

My favorite:

"The "mark of the beast", the microchip, is planned to be moved from the smart card to the human body when a story can be hatched to persuade people to accept it. Some researchers suggest that the human barcoding system will include three sets of six digits in the computer - hence 666, "the number of the beast". Once we have agreed to the end of cash and there is no turning back, we will have to accept the microchip implant or we will have no means of purchasing anything when they decide to phase out smart cards."

And yes, this is a serious quote

 

[linx]

There's obviously gonna be some unbelievable bullshit mixed in with the facts. I'm not saying I believe EVERYthing, lol.

 

[Sebastian]

...the problem is that whenever someone seriously presents his belief that these societies exist - in a conversation, on a first date, at a lecture, at a job interview - he immediately pays a price. He pays a price in ill-concealed laughter! That is a good thing. Then he could rattle on about "this is not a claim based on evidence, this is a matter of faith, you know, while i look at you i see you might be a member of these societies.

....