Illuminati, Secret Societies & Shadow Governments - Your Opinion Please !?

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Sebastian

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Lmao, Duke actually dedicated a serious post to your reply. I dont understand why because its clear for everyone on his right mind to see that you are unable debate in a proper way so yeah, im gonna come back to your threads and give the replies it deserves.
 
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Lmao, Duke actually dedicated a serious post to your reply. I dont understand why because its clear for everyone on his right mind to see that you are unable debate in a proper way so yeah, im gonna come back to your threads and give the replies it deserves.
Laugh all you want, Duke, comes across as being serious with me, but you may not know our history and he's pretty much had something against me from day one.

So believe what you want Sebastian, and what was your first reply to my thread....... *looks through email alerts*

"Hell fucking no!"

Now, *looks through thread again*......

And now.......after a few other peoples reply, you edit your post and start slinging shit at me.

Bro at 18, you should be way more mature than that, how about you just go elsewhere and come back when you can think for yourself.
 
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First up........ The ROTHSCHILD Family........

EXTENT OF ROTHSCHILD POWER

According to one source "it was estimated that they controlled half the wealth of the world."(50) The Federal Reserve Bank of New York was controlled by five banks which owned 53% of its stock. These five banks were controlled by Nathan M. Rothschild & Sons of London. Control over the U.S. Fed is basically control over the world’s money. That fact alone shows how immense the Rothschild Power is. If one examines who has been appointed to head the Fed, and to run it, the connections of the "Federal" Reserve System to the Rothschilds can further be seen. Another private enterprise using the name Federal that the Rothschilds also direct is Federal Express. Any one else might be taken to court for making their businesses sound like their are government, not the Rothschilds. It is appropriate for them to appropriate the name of Federal, because by way of MI6 via the CIA they instruct the U.S. government. Senators are bought and paid off by their system, as investigators of the BCCI are discovering. The Rothschilds have been intimately involved in witchcraft and the Illuminati since its early known history. The Kaiser of Germany seems to refer to them when he said, "the magic powers of money as wielded by the Lord of Lucre are powers of Black Magic at its blackest."
 

Duke

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EXTENT OF ROTHSCHILD POWER

According to one source "it was estimated that they controlled half the wealth of the world."(50) The Federal Reserve Bank of New York was controlled by five banks which owned 53% of its stock. These five banks were controlled by Nathan M. Rothschild & Sons of London. Control over the U.S. Fed is basically control over the world’s money. That fact alone shows how immense the Rothschild Power is. If one examines who has been appointed to head the Fed, and to run it, the connections of the "Federal" Reserve System to the Rothschilds can further be seen. Another private enterprise using the name Federal that the Rothschilds also direct is Federal Express. Any one else might be taken to court for making their businesses sound like their are government, not the Rothschilds. It is appropriate for them to appropriate the name of Federal, because by way of MI6 via the CIA they instruct the U.S. government. Senators are bought and paid off by their system, as investigators of the BCCI are discovering. The Rothschilds have been intimately involved in witchcraft and the Illuminati since its early known history. The Kaiser of Germany seems to refer to them when he said, "the magic powers of money as wielded by the Lord of Lucre are powers of Black Magic at its blackest."

I have a magic cat that's actually in control of the world.
 
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Second up... Rockefeller bloodline

Today, there are around 190 members of this family with the Rockefeller name and of course some others by other last names. This article is to explore further for those who investigate the Illuminati, how the Rockefeller bloodline is involved in the promotion of the occult and Satanism, and how they are involved in the control of the Christian denominations. This article keys in on just one family, the Rockefellers. To understand the full extent of the Illuminati’s control of religion, including Christendom, would require perhaps several books. The Illuminati itself draws its lifeblood from around 500 very powerful families worldwide. This article will not attempt to explain their networks and the many organizations of the Illuminati. It will not even try to do this for the Rockefellers. In fact, no one knows how many trusts and foundations the Rockefellers have. They have hidden trusts within secret trusts within secret trusts. It is estimated that they have between 200 and several thousand trusts and foundations. The finances of the Rockefellers are so well covered that Nelson Rockefeller did not pay one cent in income taxes in 1970, yet he was perhaps the richest man in the U.S. The Rockefellers exert enormous influence over religion in this nation in the following ways:

1. They provide a large share of the money that Seminaries in the United
States need to operate.
2. They provide a large share of the money that universities need to operate. Education influences the religious values of our people.
3. They provide large grants to various religious organizations.
4. Their influence and control helps determine who will get publicity in the major news magazines, and on television.
5. Their influence has contributed to various anti-Christian organizations being set up.
6. They directly help control certain religious groups such as Lucis Trust.
 
#51
LOL, is that you in the picture Masta? Pretending not to hear/read this ?

LOL, keep going you just prove your worth so easily, I'm not even going to bother with you idiots anymore.
 

Duke

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You had me at witchcraft.

Luckily, my magic cat protects me against all forms of occult mindcontrol.
 

Glockmatic

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You post these "facts" with nothing to back it up.

The Shellmon Company owns 90% of the world's oil supply. The company is operated by the highest level of the Knights Templar. That's right, they're still around. The other 10% is owned by the Vatican and together they can shut down the entire world by blowing up the oil reserves of the world.

Can you disprove this? You can't really. A former member of the Shellmon Corporation told me all their secrets so it's true man.
 
#54
An interconnected familiy (with the top 13) The McDonald Family

When one thinks of the name McDonald one immediately thinks of the fast food hamburger chain which has franchises all over the world. The McDonald’s Corp. has been rumored for years to be connected to Satanism. In fact a book which tries to debunk belief in a Satanic conspiracy entitled Satan Wants You reported the rumor that Mc Donald’s owner Ray Kroc tithed to the Church of Satan. (see Satan Wants You, pg. 140). Ray Kroc does spend time with NWO elites and is a member of the Bohemian Grove. There is no doubt that the McDonald’s Corp. has an inside track with the Illuminati, because the U.S. government has given according to one source 40 million dollars in public tax money to McDonalds to help them set up McDonald Restaurants in foreign countries under the disguise that this was money spent on foreign policy. In 1991, the total of McDonald outlets (restaurants) in the 3 primary European nations of Britain, France and West Germany totaled 959 restaurants.

In spite of the millions of dollars of tax dollars the U.S. has given to McDonalds Corp., the money doesn’t seem to be directly connected to the McDonalds family, because the McDonalds family (Richard and Maurice McDonald known as ‘Dick" and "Mac") which started the restaurants in 1937 were bought out by Ray Kroc around 1954. By the time Ray Kroc had bought out the McDonald brothers, they had a very successful business going. The McDonald brothers lived in the rich section of San Bernadino, and had around 11 McDonald restaurants. The brothers made about $100,000 profit a year and were quite content. The McDonalds had designed the golden arches and had put together the taste food concept and had been selling franchises. However, the McDonalds were too content. The McDonalds didn’t want to expand, and when Ray Kroc formed McDonald’s System. Inc. on Mar. 2, 1955 after buying out the brothers with borrowed money, he vigorously went to work to develop Mconalds into the International Franchise that it is. Ray Kroc (bn. 10/5/194)2 in Oak Park. Chicago) lived frugally for many years putting his whole life into building up the McDonald’s franchise. It was his drive that took a good idea and changed it from a success in Hollywood and San Bernadino into an international success. Ray Kroc knew a good idea when he saw it, and developed other people’s good ideas into a great success.

The McDonald family was a Scottish clan that was part of Druidism. Many of the McDonald have gone on to serve Christ. However, there is still a large powerful contingent of the McDonald family which is connected to the Mystery Religions, and which has family members who are part of the Illuminati. Each of the major Scottish clans had an area that they controlled of Scotland. The McDonalds controlled the islands and coastal areas on the west coast of Scotland. When the Knights Templars tied persecution, in order to escape the various British fleets, they sailed a route that took them to western Scotland. During the time of King Philippe IV of France. the McDonalds were involved in the movement of the Knights Templars. The Knights Templars had adopted gnostic/satanic practices during the centuries they guarded the pilgrims in the Middle East. The Order had also become the International Bankers of Europe and large landowners in Europe. The King of France twisted the Pope’s arm (so to speak) to get him to go along with a campaign to eliminate the Knights Templars. Because the McDonald clan was in private still pagan. they were willing to help the Knights Templar escape the Pope’s decree against the Templars.

The Knights Templars were not the only International Bankers to move north. Later, during the 16th & 17th century, the elite satanic banking families moved their operations from southern Europe to Antwerp Flanders and then on to Amsterdam. Many of the Knights Templars lied to Scotland, where they helped Bruce, the King of Scotland. When the English invaded Scotland they were defeated by Bruce in an important battle named Bannockburn. Bannockburn kept Scotland free from England for the next 289 years. The Knights Templars fought with Bruce in the battle under the command of Angus Og McDonald, who was a large Scottish landowner and a friend of Bruce. Angus Og McDonald had previously in the 1308 time period given protection to the Knights Templars. The Knights Templars brought their treasures and their military might to Scotland & to the McDonalds. Many of the Knights Templars went on to the Orkeney Is., but some stayed in Scotland and became important in the occult world. The descendents of these Knights are still guarding some important occult relics, which may be revealed in the next few years.

The Sinclair family has been part of the Prieure de Sion, Freemasonry and the Illuminati. Vice-pres. of the Sinclair Oil & Gas Co. in Tulsa in ’59-’61 was Marshall McDonald, who was an active Freemason who married into the Collins family. Note that the cities/towns Tulsa, Wagoneer, Muskogee, Broken Arrow in Okla. are totally controlled by the Illuminati. The atmosphere in these little towns SW of Tulsa has been described as oppressive & prone to violence by people who have lived in them. One of the lodge systems set up by the Illuminati was the Jacobin Club (originally known as Club Breton). Its Jacobite members got financing from the Illuminati and were a big part of the cause of the French Revolution. The Jacobites also played a role in the early history of the United States and the American Revolution. The Jacobites had a number of aristocrats who were also secret Satanists as their leaders. They had a lodge in Rome. One of the Scottish Jacobites was Flora Macdonald. She saved Prince Charles Edward’s life. Etienne Jacques Joseph Alexandre Macdonald (Scottish blood) was a 330 Freemason & also an officer who fought on the side of the French Revolution. He went on to become a Marshall in the French army. In 1805. he became the Grand Administrator of the Grand Lodge Symbolique in France.

SOME NOTABLE MCDONALDS INCLUDE:

Ramsay McDonald--British Prime Minister during 1920s privy to insider info, and who was in favor of working with communist Russia.

Ramsey McDonald was a member of the Fabian Society working for a socialist one-world government. He rubbed shoulders with Anne Besant and Clarke a disciple of llluminatus Mazzani.

Alexander McDonald (?-1910)- Pres. of Standard Oil of KT, bn. in Scotland, lived in Clifton, OH

Alonzo Lowry McDonald- U.S Marine (’50-’52), Member CFR, Illuminati, Lived in London, Zurich, and Paris. Asst to Pres. U.S. White House Staff Director 79-81

Angus Daniel McDonald (1878-1941)- Railroad pres. w/ all types of railroad leadership positions, Trustee of Notre Dame, Knight of Malta, member Bohemian Club

David George McDonald--Did secret medical & psychological research including secret research for the Neuropsychiatrical Research Unit in San Diego for the U.S. Navy in ‘62-63.

Donald S. McDonald--Bilderberger Steering Committee (this is the select Illuminati group of men who actually run the Bilderbergers), Canadian Minister of Defense, Trilateral Commission, Canada’s Institute of International Affairs (the equivalent of our CFR). and the director of the following: DuPont of Canada. the elites Shell Can Ltd., McDonald Douglas Corp., etc.

Christopher W. MacDonald - member of Bohemian Grove

Edmund B. MacDonald--member of Bohemian Grove Frank Bethume McDonald--NASA scientist involved with sending Pioneer 10 & 11 to Jupiter

George G. McDonald--member of Bohemian Grove

Graeme L. MacDonald--member of Bohemian Grove Dr. Gordon McDonald--astrophysicist who wrote that ‘enhanced electrical oscillations in the earth s atmosphere might be used to impair human brains..

Harold D. Macdonald--high ranking occultist in the SRICF which is a branch of the SRIA, which started many of the Satanic Kaballistic groups such as the OTO, the Golden Dawn, etc. Lived in Massachusetts.

Ian Bruce McDonald--member of Bohemian Grove
Prof. Dr. James E. McDonald--suicide by CIA after discovering their involvement with UFOs,

McDonald had addressed the UN’s Outer Space Affairs Group concerning UFOs on 7 June 67. Why was this very informed scientist suicide?

Jeffry R. McDonald--A Grn. Beret doctor whose family was murdered by the satanic cult that Alinea Stockley belonged to. Ted Gunderson tried to help him legally. The murder was to hide an army/CIA/Satanic drug oper. Sir John A.

McDonald (1815 -1891) - 1st Prime Minister of Canada, Freemason, Knight of the Order of Bath, Knights Templar, and member Lafayette Royal Arch Chapter, of Wash. D.C.

John Bartholomew McDonald (1844-1911)--Due to his father’s connections with the corrupt Tammany Hall in NY this railway engineer and railway executive was able to get important jobs. John built the NY subway system and when he died the electricity in all the subway system was shut off for 2 min. in respect. He built the Vanderbilt tunnels north of 42nd St. NY & other items.

John Cecil McDonald (1924-) --32° Freemason, Shriner, National Republican Chrmn, on the Court of U.S Military Appeals, delegate to Rep. Nat. Convention in ‘64, ‘72, ’76, ’80, ‘84

John Garwin McDonald--oil executive

John Warlick McDonald, Jr. (1922-) --llluminati member, lives in Arlington, VA. was with the U.S. Supreme Court 1951, was with the U S Military Govt. running Occupied German after W W Il--see the Krupp Illuminati family article in this newsletter. Worked with NATO, CENTO, CA, National War College, the UN, the State Dept., went to numerous (almost countless) UN conferences for the U.S. He was the U.S’s coordinator for the UN’s Drinking water work. He is a member of the Cosmos Club, and the Club of Rome.

Lovatt McDonald-Pres. of Draycott who has worked with P2 Freemasons in secret arm smuggling deals.

Linda McDonald--victim of Monarch Mind Control programming by Dr Ewen Cameron (Dr. White of the Illuminati) at Allan Memorial Hospital. Linda McDonald at the age of 58 and living at Vancouver, B.C. was able to prove that Cameron did programming using drugs, electroshock, psychic driving, depatterning, etc.) She has no memory of her childhood, but was able to prove that in 1963 at age 26 she was given mind control programming. Because the CIA had funded Cameron, the U.S. Fed. govt. gave her via the Canadian govt. a $100,000 settlement, if she would not talk. A newspaper did pick up on the settlement on 11/18/92 and I have reproduced that news article at the end of this article. The money was hush money, for it was stipulated for the $100,000 out of court settlement, Linda would keep quiet about her mind control.

Robert A. McDonald--member of Bohemian

Grove W. Patrick McDonald--member of Bohemian Grove

Walter Joseph McDonald- important CIA officer, Cath., lived in Annapolis, MD, bn. in Boston, MS.


More to come...............
 
#55
You had me at witchcraft.

Luckily, my magic cat protects me against all forms of occult mindcontrol.
LOL, mhmmm.

You post these "facts" with nothing to back it up.

The Shellmon Company owns 90% of the world's oil supply. The company is operated by the highest level of the Knights Templar. That's right, they're still around. The other 10% is owned by the Vatican and together they can shut down the entire world by blowing up the oil reserves of the world.

Can you disprove this? You can't really. A former member of the Shellmon Corporation told me all their secrets so it's true man.
Well, disprove away Glock, thats why I'm here, just don't be an ass about it.

And that's pretty rich coming form someone that is willing to blindly accept the Swine Flu Vaccine because "its free" and the side effects may just give you a "few days off work", I still have to get back to you about that thread don't I.... :D

I see your logic bro, I really do.
 

Duke

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Well, disprove away Glock, thats why I'm here, just don't be an ass about it.

And that's pretty rich coming form someone that is willing to blindly accept the Swine Flu Vaccine because "its free" and the side effects may just give you a "few days off work", I still have to get back to you about that thread don't I.... :D

I see your logic bro, I really do.

You have no idea what he just did there, do you?
 

Glockmatic

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LOL, mhmmm.



Well, disprove away Glock, thats why I'm here, just don't be an ass about it.

And that's pretty rich coming form someone that is willing to blindly accept the Swine Flu Vaccine because "its free" and the side effects may just give you a "few days off work", I still have to get back to you about that thread don't I.... :D

I see your logic bro, I really do.
I accept the swine flu vaccine because the science behind it is sound, there are people spreading fear about the dangers of it when all the fears have been refuted.

As to disproving your conspiracy theories, you can't disprove something that has no evidence. I could make up anything right now and you cannot disprove it. Please try disproving my post earlier. Hell, you can even add to it if you want.
 

ill-matic

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ok this is just ridiclous. if you actually presented a decent case backed by reasonable evidence, then people wouldnt ridicule you so damned much.

you're just an idiot. half your shit says "one source alleges...". That is so inconclusive. That one source could be a senile old woman with a beard.

And learn how to debate. You resort to "youre just haters" or some other shit because you got nothing else to add. you copy and paste all your shit that feeds your fantasies, because you are so damned insecure with yourself that youre desperate for something that makes you feel youre on top of other people. look @ your location for fucks sake. get over yourself
 

linx

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With shit like this, I like to keep an open mind. I don't read stuff and believe it all. But I don't just disbelieve it all either.
 
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