Lets be honest...
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Pawn stars is on the history channel so it doesn't count. I like swamp people too.
The correlation you're trying to make between education and what you find entertaining is laughable to me. I have no formal education even worth mentioning and I won't watch that bs but I'll catch my bf watching "Keeping up with the Kardashians" and he's working on a PhD.
The correlation you're trying to make between education and what you find entertaining is laughable to me. I have no formal education even worth mentioning and I won't watch that bs but I'll catch my bf watching "Keeping up with the Kardashians" and he's working on a PhD.
That's you. And that is your choice.
Some people don't want to read a book, and might want to spend some time alone in front of the box. People differ in terms of entertainment.
Here, I'll be a arm-chair shrink myself, here's a thought. People that go out and judge others based on what they watch suffer from insecurity, they feel the need to be pseudo-intellectuals to give themselves merit in their everyday life.
Woohoo. Let's all be psychologists!
/end sarcasm
Seriously now? Are we actually having a convo about who's smarter cause they watch Survivor or Lost?
PS: Lost sucks.
Some people don't want to read a book, and might want to spend some time alone in front of the box. People differ in terms of entertainment.
Here, I'll be a arm-chair shrink myself, here's a thought. People that go out and judge others based on what they watch suffer from insecurity, they feel the need to be pseudo-intellectuals to give themselves merit in their everyday life.
Woohoo. Let's all be psychologists!
/end sarcasm
Seriously now? Are we actually having a convo about who's smarter cause they watch Survivor or Lost?
PS: Lost sucks.
But to completely ignore the correlation between the types of shows you watch and how...sophisticated? Intelligent? you are is a bit silly.
Classmates jumped on me once in a neuroscience class I was in when our teacher asked us "what can you tell about a person judging by what they like?" I think he actually asked about music in particular. I forgot what others said, but I said it could be used to measure intelligence. What I meant was how "sophisticated" someone was. Usually, intelligent or sophisticated people diversify their interests, whether it be books, movies, cars, music, etc. It's hard to take someone seriously if their interests are very narrow. Or find something to talk about with them. If they listen solely to rap, or read only pop. lit. or comics, or only like comedies, you really don't see that person as being interesting to talk to. Chances are there's more to it.
I think I just touched nerve on some of the cunts in that classroom that realized their Prophet Bieber was in my scope of discussion. Either that or their Twilight coonshit they menstruate to was going to brought under attack too.
I catch myself with thoughts like this some times. There's another thought I have on the matter, though. Apparently, many of us seem to embrace this idea that watching the show somehow means we endorse it, which somehow means we contribute to further the show that we believe is principally bad. Either, we're just special, or most people think like this and we manage to articulate reasons for why we like things in a more descriptive manner than "the average person". Maybe there is a correlation here, if that were to be true, with us being members of a forum we've been going to for a decade or more (some). We say that we like it here on SH because the average member is smarter here, than on the average forum (or whatever someone said, and the rest agreed with). Or maybe the truth is that going to a forum several times a week for several years gives you practice in searching your soul for reasons behind your choices, and practice in articulating those reasons. Ie. we're having an almost deep and psychological debate about people that watch a trashy TV show. Obviously we have the power of the pen on our side.
Either way, considering there seems to be a 50-50 split between people who watch it and people who don't, even among us smarter-than-average Streethoppers (lol), I'm thinking that half of us are already boycotting it, and it's still running. Watching it or not watching it makes no difference then, as the power of those that like it far outmeasures the power of those that don't. So you might as well watch it, if nothing else, then to let yourself follow an impulse ("hey, a fight on TV" to use Jokerman's example) instead of holding yourself back over some stupid principle which results in you thinking negative thoughts about the show (which means you are having negative thoughts instead of enjoying your impulse).
Watch Jersey Shore with a clean conscience if you want to, I endorse summer school but I would never go there. Know what I mean?
Either way, considering there seems to be a 50-50 split between people who watch it and people who don't, even among us smarter-than-average Streethoppers (lol), I'm thinking that half of us are already boycotting it, and it's still running. Watching it or not watching it makes no difference then, as the power of those that like it far outmeasures the power of those that don't. So you might as well watch it, if nothing else, then to let yourself follow an impulse ("hey, a fight on TV" to use Jokerman's example) instead of holding yourself back over some stupid principle which results in you thinking negative thoughts about the show (which means you are having negative thoughts instead of enjoying your impulse).
Watch Jersey Shore with a clean conscience if you want to, I endorse summer school but I would never go there. Know what I mean?
In between all the principles and morals it's good to slow down and ask yourself what makes you happy. If killing does, I guess that opens a lot of new questions I couldn't possibly answer, but yeah... If you wanna watch it, do, if you don't, don't. But the idea that you make any difference what so ever, either way, is ridiculous. And then, allowing yourself to have emotions about people who do or don't just means you end up wasting time being angry at *something*. It's like when someone does something to piss you off. You can get pissed off, and they won't give a fuck, and it might ruin your day. Or you can smile and not give a fuck, and end up having a lower amount of total negative thoughts for that entire day. Which leads me to think that you can decide whether to love, hate, or be careless about something. You then also decide how enjoyable you want your day and life to be.
I don't think anyone who doesn't watch the show is holding back out of principle. They just don't find much value in it. And my point was, even though I know if I turn it on, some fight or argument might hold my attention for a minute, that's not enough for me to want to turn to it and spend time with it. There will always be better things for me to watch or do. The idea of not endorsing it is just something we think those who do watch it should consider. But it doesn't hold us back. (Though cable companies do know how many are tuned to a show and that drives advertisement revenues and programming. So Just Say NO.)
I, personally, never said i could make a difference by boycotting the tv shows. In my opinion, there are enough people out there who actually enjoy watching it (for whatever reason). So people like me couldnt make a difference in this particular case.
However, i dont wanna be one of those people who complain about trash tv, joking about the people participating in it and then go home
and watch this crap (and by doing so, like Jokey said, support it). Its called following a principle.
However, i dont wanna be one of those people who complain about trash tv, joking about the people participating in it and then go home
and watch this crap (and by doing so, like Jokey said, support it). Its called following a principle.
^^Fair argument.
@Joker: Well, I don't watch it either. I don't get what's wrong with the actual show though. Worse movies and shows have become cult classics due to being bad, and no one goes off about a bad movie just because it's bad. Which leads me to believe anyone who hates Jersey Shore does so out of some principle. Maybe it's that they hate the people on the show for allowing themselves to be vulnerable and say the things that come to their mind with little to no filter. In reality most people have known a person like this, and while they do things that make no sense, they are fun to be around because shit happens. People hate Snooki for being an attention whore, not because she is a bad actress. People hate Jersey Shore because "it's supposed to be reality, but it's scripted, and the people on it are fucking morons". Whether that means they are holding back out of principle or out of disgust, the two are equally retarded in my eyes.
When you say "I don't watch it because it has low entertainment value" I get it. When you say "I fucking hate that show" I get that you are using crude language to make a point and maybe also get some laughs from people that agree. But in this thread with the psychoanalytical etc. it seems people have strong feelings about people who watch this show. Which is retarded.
@Joker: Well, I don't watch it either. I don't get what's wrong with the actual show though. Worse movies and shows have become cult classics due to being bad, and no one goes off about a bad movie just because it's bad. Which leads me to believe anyone who hates Jersey Shore does so out of some principle. Maybe it's that they hate the people on the show for allowing themselves to be vulnerable and say the things that come to their mind with little to no filter. In reality most people have known a person like this, and while they do things that make no sense, they are fun to be around because shit happens. People hate Snooki for being an attention whore, not because she is a bad actress. People hate Jersey Shore because "it's supposed to be reality, but it's scripted, and the people on it are fucking morons". Whether that means they are holding back out of principle or out of disgust, the two are equally retarded in my eyes.
When you say "I don't watch it because it has low entertainment value" I get it. When you say "I fucking hate that show" I get that you are using crude language to make a point and maybe also get some laughs from people that agree. But in this thread with the psychoanalytical etc. it seems people have strong feelings about people who watch this show. Which is retarded.
^^Fair argument.
@Joker: Well, I don't watch it either. I don't get what's wrong with the actual show though. Worse movies and shows have become cult classics due to being bad, and no one goes off about a bad movie just because it's bad. Which leads me to believe anyone who hates Jersey Shore does so out of some principle. Maybe it's that they hate the people on the show for allowing themselves to be vulnerable and say the things that come to their mind with little to no filter. In reality most people have known a person like this, and while they do things that make no sense, they are fun to be around because shit happens. People hate Snooki for being an attention whore, not because she is a bad actress. People hate Jersey Shore because "it's supposed to be reality, but it's scripted, and the people on it are fucking morons". Whether that means they are holding back out of principle or out of disgust, the two are equally retarded in my eyes.
When you say "I don't watch it because it has low entertainment value" I get it. When you say "I fucking hate that show" I get that you are using crude language to make a point and maybe also get some laughs from people that agree. But in this thread with the psychoanalytical etc. it seems people have strong feelings about people who watch this show. Which is retarded.
@Joker: Well, I don't watch it either. I don't get what's wrong with the actual show though. Worse movies and shows have become cult classics due to being bad, and no one goes off about a bad movie just because it's bad. Which leads me to believe anyone who hates Jersey Shore does so out of some principle. Maybe it's that they hate the people on the show for allowing themselves to be vulnerable and say the things that come to their mind with little to no filter. In reality most people have known a person like this, and while they do things that make no sense, they are fun to be around because shit happens. People hate Snooki for being an attention whore, not because she is a bad actress. People hate Jersey Shore because "it's supposed to be reality, but it's scripted, and the people on it are fucking morons". Whether that means they are holding back out of principle or out of disgust, the two are equally retarded in my eyes.
When you say "I don't watch it because it has low entertainment value" I get it. When you say "I fucking hate that show" I get that you are using crude language to make a point and maybe also get some laughs from people that agree. But in this thread with the psychoanalytical etc. it seems people have strong feelings about people who watch this show. Which is retarded.
Oh don't discount the merit of some of the psychoanalytic ones. There is some truth to it. I still feel everyone has the right to watch and not watch this show.
Let's put it this way. If the cast of Jersey were your friends, would you still hang out with them? Assuming they weren't famous, would you hang out in public with them and be proud to call them your friends and be seen with them? If not, why not? Because you want to see why life is like as a dumb Guido bitch? I guess that's not too bad after all. A valid reason.
The thing is, there are people that idolize these people and try to be like then. They bring phrases from the show and turn them in to memes. These can not be educated people that think living the life of a Jersey Shore character is a way to live life deliberately.
Don't be a smartass, I was just saying that I have a busy schedule and I like to turn my brain off from time to time. Do I have the right to do so? Yes. Can I do it? Yes. Are you better than me because you over-analyze a fucking show of 8 morons drinking and partying? No.
On the other hand, Do you have the right not to turn your brain off from time to time? Yes. Can you do it? Yes. People can watch whatever the fuck they want, as long as they contribute to our society in some way... That been said, Jokerman kind of has a point in what he said though, but still, you have to look at the bigger picture here and JS is not America's problem tbh... It's just a symptom.
Anyway, so the fuck what, I like the show because they are interesting characters and the shit they do makes me laugh.
For fucks sake, there's no difference between watching this and watching a basketball match. None of them are intellectual or socially productive.
This thread turned into something fucking ridiculous...
By the way, Davy, I might move to Montreal in a month.
On the other hand, Do you have the right not to turn your brain off from time to time? Yes. Can you do it? Yes. People can watch whatever the fuck they want, as long as they contribute to our society in some way... That been said, Jokerman kind of has a point in what he said though, but still, you have to look at the bigger picture here and JS is not America's problem tbh... It's just a symptom.
Anyway, so the fuck what, I like the show because they are interesting characters and the shit they do makes me laugh.
For fucks sake, there's no difference between watching this and watching a basketball match. None of them are intellectual or socially productive.
This thread turned into something fucking ridiculous...
By the way, Davy, I might move to Montreal in a month.
LMAO Where the fuck did this come from? I think you are watching js WAY too much because you pretty much just created this drama outta thin air.
Anyway you said people can watch what they want as long as they contribute to society in some way? Well the js contributes NOTHING to society and probably even takes away from it, even though the people that watch may do (contribute)...
Where did I analyze the show? Im not an expert, I just said I think you get dumber from watching it. Jokerman said pretty much the same as me and you dont 'claim' he is saying he's better than you.
You're the one that turned this into a dick waving contest, I wasnt looking down at anyone.
Man you really need to chill out
Anyway you said people can watch what they want as long as they contribute to society in some way? Well the js contributes NOTHING to society and probably even takes away from it, even though the people that watch may do (contribute)...
Where did I analyze the show? Im not an expert, I just said I think you get dumber from watching it. Jokerman said pretty much the same as me and you dont 'claim' he is saying he's better than you.
You're the one that turned this into a dick waving contest, I wasnt looking down at anyone.
Man you really need to chill out
Coonie, I do agree to an extent about the whole sophistication/interesting person. Then again, Ive met people that watch the show religiously, and they range from uninteresting people to talk to, to those that can hold a conversation about anything and everything. So it really depends in the end.
Would I hang with these guys? Dunno, but some do seem more down to earth than others, I've been told that Pauly D guy is very nice (he Dj'd here a few times) and will buy drinks for people. At least that's what some girl in my class told me.
I don't really go off with what I see on TV (especially one so highly edited) and superimpose it to someone when I meet them. I'll make my own judgements about a person in the end. That's just me though. The girls seem like psychos though. I don't know though - this whole Guido culture is not something very common here in Montreal, we have our own things that we laugh at, but it has nothing to do with J.S. I didn't even know J.S was a real thing, had to YouTube it lol.
Hizzle, how come you're moving here? Weren't you maybe going to Rijeka sometime next year?
BTW, this thread should die. We're gonna end up being offtopic with it all. Such as turtles being assholes cause of their hard shells or something.
Would I hang with these guys? Dunno, but some do seem more down to earth than others, I've been told that Pauly D guy is very nice (he Dj'd here a few times) and will buy drinks for people. At least that's what some girl in my class told me.
I don't really go off with what I see on TV (especially one so highly edited) and superimpose it to someone when I meet them. I'll make my own judgements about a person in the end. That's just me though. The girls seem like psychos though. I don't know though - this whole Guido culture is not something very common here in Montreal, we have our own things that we laugh at, but it has nothing to do with J.S. I didn't even know J.S was a real thing, had to YouTube it lol.
Hizzle, how come you're moving here? Weren't you maybe going to Rijeka sometime next year?
BTW, this thread should die. We're gonna end up being offtopic with it all. Such as turtles being assholes cause of their hard shells or something.
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