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THEV1LL4N

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the only thing i have to say about that is people will continue to use facebook for social networking and probably use google products as they normally do without the social factor. the majority use things like facebook, youtube and google search and that's all they need - they couldn't care less, or rather, they don't know about universal integration. so most people will find it hard to break away from using these services individually. they just share youtube videos on facebook anyway.

however, i do prefer sharing on google+ more than on facebook but i don't it to become that place/news feed where it displays a lot of clutter and more stuff than i need to see. i know that's why circles are there... but still.
 

Casey

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people will continue to use facebook for social networking
yes. in much the same way as people continue to use myspace for social networking. oh wait.

mass migrations happen every so often. facebook's had a good run and it will end at some point. once they IPO and have a responsibility to public shareholders you will see a lot more adverts which will put people off... that and the fact that G+ is simply a better service.

I'm not saying Google will be the new kings of social necessarily although obviously I'd love to see it happen and they're in the best position they could possibly be in right now (ie the majority of the people on the planet will use the internet for the first time from a smartphone, who runs the smartphone game? yeah), but what I am definitely saying is that there WILL be a mass migration of people from FB to a competitor service at some point within the next 3-5 years. it's destiny. ask myspace, ask friendster, ask hi5, ask xanga. sure facebook has more users than probably all of those people put together, but that's simply because there's more people on the internet now. and in the future, there will be even more. so who has the reach? the combined force of google's top products like search, gmail, android and youtube is basically an unstoppable force from this point.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
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Google completely dominates the search engine market. Bing doesn't come close, are there any others? ;)

That puts a hell of a lot of traffic google's way.... At the moment they seem to be holding themselves pretty ethically, and long may that continue. If Apple or Zuckerberg had that power they would be manipulating the people... Zuckerberg more so than Apple.
 

S O F I

Administrator
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As long as Facebook is able to adapt quickly and introduce new features, I don't see a mass migration occurring any time soon. I don't agree with the notion that Facebook will die because Friendster and Xanga died. They didn't die because death was inevitable, they died due to lack of innovation and strategy. A world where Google and Facebook are both successful is possible. It's just hard to predict what kind of features Facebook will have in the future.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Did MySpace try to emulate Facebook during its last few breaths? I can't remember. But I imagine Facebook will do the same. Didn't FB make some changes to incorporate some of G+'s ideas? The whole Circles thing was copied by Facebook, but it doesn't work as well. Or maybe it does, I don't use it. I just have friends that see everything and then friends that are restricted to a few things. The latter is mostly family that don't need to see my statuses and posts on my wall by friends.
 

masta247

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That schemer idea-thing doesn't look new to me. But it's like bringing together blogs and social networks.

I think that Facebook and Google+ will coexist in the upcoming future. Google+ seems like it became a different service than it wanted to be and while its path still isn't clear it's getting somewhere.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
It's like a mesh of Facebook and Twitter. I never add people I don't know well on Facebook. On Twitter, I add anyone related to ESPN and also those parody accounts that make retarded, but hilarious, statuses. G+ seems to take the more "intellectual" (as Casey has said before) people to follow and allows you to have a discussion with them, similar to the comments section of Facebook.

I could be wrong, but you can't have a full-fledge conversation on Twitter, intellectual or not. Maybe a short exchange, but that's not quite a discussion that can involve others.

Which is why I asked about a G+ desktop client, or a client that combines different social networks into one app so you can keep track of it all. That might boost incentive for me to use G+ more actively.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
I am not really a social network person. I have a facebook account as most people do, and I like to stalk. I have a twitter account because I like to get status updates on sports, or bands, or from media outlets. But I never Tweet. When Google+ is running 100% I could see it replacing both, but it depends on it's take up...
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
I am not really a social network person. I have a facebook account as most people do, and I like to stalk. I have a twitter account because I like to get status updates on sports, or bands, or from media outlets. But I never Tweet. When Google+ is running 100% I could see it replacing both, but it depends on it's take up...
Yeah, I don't tweet either. I did a few times when I had Tweetdeck hooked up to my Facebook, so statuses on there became tweets as well, and I have tweeted a few times for contests and all, but outside of that I don't feel the need to tweet as often as I update my Facebook status.
 

S O F I

Administrator
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Sometimes when I want to say something but don't want to get replies on Facebook asking "WTF? dude", I just tweet it instead cause no one asks. I have like 10 followers.
 

Casey

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Also, without a shadow of a doubt I use G+ and Twitter way, way, way more than Facebook these days. I find myself clicking on to Facebook, scanning the feed for a few seconds, maybe click Like on something or other, comment somewhere and closing it again. Whereas I can easily spend an hour or two on G+ or Twitter. There's just more interesting conversations happening on both of them.
 

S O F I

Administrator
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I read the article earlier this evening. I think it's a good example of writing an article about a story that isn't there. I have a friend who stopped using Facebook. Is that evidence of a mass migration? They quote 2 people who have stopped using it. They probably wouldn't use G+ either. The evidence isn't there that people are deactivating en masse. The only evidence there is that Facebook activations aren't growing as fast which is normal once you accumulate 800 million active users and 2/3 of the US population.
 

Casey

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I read the article earlier this evening. I think it's a good example of writing an article about a story that isn't there. I have a friend who stopped using Facebook. Is that evidence of a mass migration? They quote 2 people who have stopped using it. They probably wouldn't use G+ either. The evidence isn't there that people are deactivating en masse. The only evidence there is that Facebook activations aren't growing as fast which is normal once you accumulate 800 million active users and 2/3 of the US population.
I'm pretty sure I saw a statistic that people are spending a lot less time on FB than they used to. And I get your point, but that article was from The Verge - a very highly regarded new blog mostly made up of former Engadget staff like Joshua Topolsky. And their article was based upon a report from the New York Times - who I obviously don't read regularly but as far as I'm aware sloppy journalism is not something they're known for.

Anyway, Google+ is evolving at a rapid rate. This Xmas season they are shipping a new feature every single day. Check the hashtag #seasonforshipping - today, they've improved Hangouts.

Google+ Hangouts: Going beyond the status update

One of the most intimate forms of human connection is eye contact. Our digital tools have given us new forms - text messages, email, status updates - but nothing compares to the richness and intensity of looking into someones eyes as they talk.

Our emphasis on face-to-face-face group video communication has lead to some amazing experiences. By giving this away for free, we've enabled people around the world to see into each others eyes and share discussion and laughter in new ways.

Today, we improve the service significantly.

1) We are enabling you to hangout on any post.
2) We've reached an important milestone for "Hangouts on Air". Hundreds of people (who we have whitelisted as part of our trial) can now broadcast their hangouts to the entire world for free completely self-service. Our goal is to enable this for everyone on the planet.
3) We are making it possible for you to start hangouts from messenger on Android or iPhone devices.
4) You can call any phone number in the world and conference in anyone.
5) We threw in a reindeer :)
Adding a Hangout link under every post is utter genius. Sometimes people may want to have a Hangout based around a certain topic. I can already see so many use cases for it. For example, fans of a band or artist doing a Hangout based on whatever news is being posted on G+ about their favorites. Starting Hangouts from Android was a needed feature as well, the new G+ app should roll it imminently. And being able to add phonecalls to a Hangout is awesome too.

They also just added some new games in that section, and added the ability to post to G+ from Blogger. A full G+/Blogger integration seems likely - whereby your blog would be a customized frontpage containing your Public updates. They added a new system for flagging spam comments also.

With each new major feature G+ feels more advanced, not to mention useful to a lot of people. I'm not feeling the sense of freedom so much on FB personally. Don't get me wrong, the interaction is there on FB but it feels superficial. The level of actual conversation and discussion just seems superior to me on G+.
 

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