Illuminati, Secret Societies & Shadow Governments - Your Opinion Please !?

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Duke

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I've heard Jokerman got kicked out of the Freemasons because he kept releasing farm animals on the grounds.

Is this true?
 

Glockmatic

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#65
The secret society called the "Boy Scouts" is a world-wide organization that has the ultra secret plot to control the world. Famous scouts include Bill Gates (Richest man in the world...coincidence?). Buzz Aldrin (Boy Scouts actually faked the moon landing), and many others. We need to stop this organization and be free from their brainwashing camp trips and outdoor survival lessons.

And don't get me started on the Girl Scouts and their mercury filled cookies....
 

Duke

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#66
Also, the colour of Obama's house is white.

The immediate blast of a nuclear bomb appears white to the human eye.



COINCIDENCE?!?!?!?! I THINK NOT!
 

masta247

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Be back later peeps, feel free to look up the top 13 bloodlines, and/or discuss this amongst yourselves :)
Looks like he's gone. We may now continue our sinister actions.

Tin foil hats on, gentlemen. Mind controlling module online again. We're going to take over worlds governments today.
 

Jokerman

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#68
The secret society called the "Boy Scouts" is a world-wide organization that has the ultra secret plot to control the world. Famous scouts include Bill Gates (Richest man in the world...coincidence?).
Of course it's no coincidence. And it's no coincidence that Bill Gates is one of the leaders of the vaccination conspiracy.

"A Japanese Research team is working on genetically engineering mosquitoes to deliver vaccines. These are the flying vaccines of the future. Far fetched? Bill Gates doesn't think so. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in 2008 allotted a $100,000 grant to this research team for just that project."

Read the rest of the article:

Watch Out for Flying Syringes, GMO Food Vaccines, and Forced Vaccinations

Edible vaccines, as GMO foods, are in the future as well. Meat and Poultry, a business journal for meat and poultry processors, reports in a May 5, 2009 article , by Bryan Salvage, that researchers at Iowa State University are working on creating a method to install vaccines into corn crops.

"We're trying to figure out which genes from the swine influenza virus to incorporate into corn", stated Hank Harris, a researcher on the project. "If a swine flu virus breaks out, the corn could be shipped to the location to try to vaccinate animals and humans in the area quickly. . . . there is no need for extensive vaccine purification, which can be an expensive process."

This way even corn products, including corn chips and corn syrup, which is ubiquitous in processed foods, can serve as vaccination vehicles for humans while the corn itself is fed to hogs.




What that means is that every time we eat something made with corn, like corn chips or corn syrup, we'll be getting vaccinated with swine flu. A person could get vaccinated this way hundreds of times a year! And, of course, this is from genetically modified poison corn.
 
#70
Fuckin ignorance has got me fed up to the point where I ask myself, why the fuck should I bother.
Well it's not like anyone's holding their breath waiting for you to copy-and-paste some more "info".

Why continue? Cos I know there are free thinking people on this forum, that may read this thread, perhaps not post, but at least see both sides to the arguement and will be able to ask themselves questions they never have before, and/or do some research into it, for that reason I will put up with this shit.
Reading conspiracy theorists websites and believing everything without proof is not research. Research tends to involve something called "evidence".

Well one thing I will happily agree with you is that talking to religous fanatics, is like talking to a brick wall.
It's the same with you. You too have unshakable beliefs based on fantasy.

If you don't want your beliefs ridiculed, it might be an idea to back them up with evidence. If you post any evidence whatsoever, I guarantee you'll get some more "serious" replies. You're not the first person to post this kind of "info". We've had civil discussions about this kind of thing before.

Just promise that you won't start acting like a bitch when people point out the flaws in your logic.
 
#71
i like watching wild life documentaries, because it is the only way to watch and understand how life thrives in an environment uncontrolled by a society or government.

such as a tiger in the desert has no morals, he has only the instinct of survival. how could that tiger live freely in the wild if his every movement was monitored and controlled by external means. telling him what he should eat, when and how; what is good for him and what is not. the media in this sense aims to deny our own impulses, and create a false sense of discipline within those who have no knowledge or sense of personal direction. i wish i could elaborate more, but i think artists and philosophers are the ones to look up to, not an all controlling society/government
 
#72
You have no idea what he just did there, do you?
No Duke, only you do, and only you know the truth about everything.

I accept the swine flu vaccine because the science behind it is sound, there are people spreading fear about the dangers of it when all the fears have been refuted.

As to disproving your conspiracy theories, you can't disprove something that has no evidence. I could make up anything right now and you cannot disprove it. Please try disproving my post earlier. Hell, you can even add to it if you want.
Why would I add to something that you made up, you say for me to disprove yours, no because I don't give a fuck about made up shit, however I do invite you to see what you can disprove, of these "conspiricy theories".

ok this is just ridiclous. if you actually presented a decent case backed by reasonable evidence, then people wouldnt ridicule you so damned much.

you're just an idiot. half your shit says "one source alleges...". That is so inconclusive. That one source could be a senile old woman with a beard.

And learn how to debate. You resort to "youre just haters" or some other shit because you got nothing else to add. you copy and paste all your shit that feeds your fantasies, because you are so damned insecure with yourself that youre desperate for something that makes you feel youre on top of other people. look @ your location for fucks sake. get over yourself
So because of my location I'm up myself ? I never think of myself as "on top" of other people, even ignorant people have thier place. So if you choose to just blow it all off as a conspiricy theory, that's your choice, and thanks for your opinion.

If it's all so shaky, and half my shit says "one source alleges" it should take you about 2 min flat to debunk these radical theories, correct?

Such a hater ;)

With shit like this, I like to keep an open mind. I don't read stuff and believe it all. But I don't just disbelieve it all either.
Exactly. Some people just love to be stereotypical, and band together in thier little packs, to take a bite out of my ass. Well I hope it tastes good fellas.

I'm convinced because the science behind it is sound.
LOL

I've heard Jokerman got kicked out of the Freemasons because he kept releasing farm animals on the grounds.

Is this true?
Well, if you can find a video of it on You Tube, then, and only then will I believe it, dickhead.

The only Freemasons that I care about.

Bitch.
LOL, thanks for sharing, notice the checkerboard in that video. Can't really say anything much about that specific video, but I have read up on it, something about black and white checkerboard is a universal symbol for the conjunction of opposites and control through polarity.

There is plenty of symbolism thorughout our societies, just look at the US dollar bill the next time you have one, take a REAL good look. I'll post up some stuff on it soon in case your too pig headed to do it yourself.

But my information came from my own magic cat. My magic cat is flawless. It cannot be wrong.
Maybe not, but you are.

The secret society called the "Boy Scouts" is a world-wide organization that has the ultra secret plot to control the world. Famous scouts include Bill Gates (Richest man in the world...coincidence?). Buzz Aldrin (Boy Scouts actually faked the moon landing), and many others. We need to stop this organization and be free from their brainwashing camp trips and outdoor survival lessons.

And don't get me started on the Girl Scouts and their mercury filled cookies....
That was just a retarded response.

Also, the colour of Obama's house is white.

The immediate blast of a nuclear bomb appears white to the human eye.



COINCIDENCE?!?!?!?! I THINK NOT!
No, definately not, I'll have to look into that connection, Moron.

Looks like he's gone. We may now continue our sinister actions.

Tin foil hats on, gentlemen. Mind controlling module online again. We're going to take over worlds governments today.
Good to see you have finally joined my tinfoil hat crusade, didn't take long ;)

Well it's not like anyone's holding their breath waiting for you to copy-and-paste some more "info".
Good, then I assume soon I will weed out the stereotypical, predjudice fuckheads soon enough.


Reading conspiracy theorists websites and believing everything without proof is not research. Research tends to involve something called "evidence".
There is plenty of information on the Illuminati and Freemasons etc even at your local library I would assume, I haven't had too much trouble in finding info if I seek for it properly. LOL, I find it impossible to base my beliefs on any one source of knowledge, and I don't just go to tinfoil hat websites. Believe what you will though.


It's the same with you. You too have unshakable beliefs based on fantasy.
They aren't unshakeable as I am still learning about the subject, I am far from complete in regards to studying this issue. Prove to me it's fantasy, if you can ?

If you don't want your beliefs ridiculed, it might be an idea to back them up with evidence. If you post any evidence whatsoever, I guarantee you'll get some more "serious" replies. You're not the first person to post this kind of "info". We've had civil discussions about this kind of thing before.

Just promise that you won't start acting like a bitch when people point out the flaws in your logic
Fair enough, but what I like to do is make people do their own research on such matters, for sometimes, when you bring a horse to water, it still won't drink unless it wants to, get my drift ?

Ok ok, I promise. lol.

i like watching wild life documentaries, because it is the only way to watch and understand how life thrives in an environment uncontrolled by a society or government.

such as a tiger in the desert has no morals, he has only the instinct of survival. how could that tiger live freely in the wild if his every movement was monitored and controlled by external means. telling him what he should eat, when and how; what is good for him and what is not. the media in this sense aims to deny our own impulses, and create a false sense of discipline within those who have no knowledge or sense of personal direction. i wish i could elaborate more, but i think artists and philosophers are the ones to look up to, not an all controlling society/government
Another great reply, and could not agree more. I too love watching nature docos, always have they are the bomb.

Oh but wait, according to the hater crew because I agree with you, and because I'm a consipicy theorist, that wears a tinfoil hat and only believes things with one source of information, from youtube.....then whatever you think or say is crazyyyy ass too Yeshua, sorry bro, I might just of made you lose all your credit on the forum :(

Ignorance is why society has let these fuckers get into the position they are in. Don't worry though, just keep shutting it out "haters" but it will not do you anygood, when all this shit, really starts taking hold. It's already started and has been going on our whole lives, it's just most still live in the illusion that we truly have free choice in society, but when you control everything in it, what real choice is left ?
 
#74
I wish the Illuminati took away internet privileges.
They could very well be starting to try......

More than 2,000 opponents of the federal Labor government’s plans to censor the Internet rallied in cities across Australia on December 13—the second national protest in the past two months. The demonstrations, which were convened by the Digital Liberty Coalition (DLC), are another indication of the growing concern of industry technicians, scientists and a broad range of ordinary people over the government’s attempts to control and regulate Internet access in Australia.

Labor Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and his Minister for Broadband and Communications Stephen Conroy claim that two-tier Internet filtering measures announced last year will protect children from pornography and X-rated violence.

The measures, however, have little to do with protecting children but constitute a direct attack of freedom of expression and other basic democratic rights. Its real purpose is to establish the framework for government censorship of Internet sites.

Despite the broad-based opposition, Labor announced it would start “live testing” of its dual-level filtering system on December 24. The first level will block websites named in a secret blacklist maintained by the government’s Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA). The second level involves an optional filtering system that Labor claims will only block child pornography and other material it deems inappropriate or illegal for children. Those not wanting to be subjected to second-level filtering will be forced to lodge a special “opt
out” request with their Internet Service Provider (ISP).


Some more on it....

Internet Censorship | The Inquisitr
 

ill-matic

Well-Known Member
#75
They could very well be starting to try......

More than 2,000 opponents of the federal Labor government’s plans to censor the Internet rallied in cities across Australia on December 13—the second national protest in the past two months. The demonstrations, which were convened by the Digital Liberty Coalition (DLC), are another indication of the growing concern of industry technicians, scientists and a broad range of ordinary people over the government’s attempts to control and regulate Internet access in Australia.

Labor Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and his Minister for Broadband and Communications Stephen Conroy claim that two-tier Internet filtering measures announced last year will protect children from pornography and X-rated violence.

The measures, however, have little to do with protecting children but constitute a direct attack of freedom of expression and other basic democratic rights. Its real purpose is to establish the framework for government censorship of Internet sites.

Despite the broad-based opposition, Labor announced it would start “live testing” of its dual-level filtering system on December 24. The first level will block websites named in a secret blacklist maintained by the government’s Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA). The second level involves an optional filtering system that Labor claims will only block child pornography and other material it deems inappropriate or illegal for children. Those not wanting to be subjected to second-level filtering will be forced to lodge a special “opt
out” request with their Internet Service Provider (ISP).


Some more on it....

Internet Censorship | The Inquisitr
So how exactly does that link to the Illuminatti again?

If you're still "learning" about this then you should be more open minded. You're implying that you don't know much about it, and that you're still doing your research. But the way you do it is too one-sided. You're only looking for the information you WANT to see because you're already of the belief that the Illuminati run shit, so you look for things that support it with no regard for the other side.

IF you're still "learning" and "gathering knowledge" on this subject then you should be a lot more open minded and not shake off criticisms as "being a hater" or "being ignorant".
 
#76
So how exactly does that link to the Illuminatti again?

If you're still "learning" about this then you should be more open minded.
How it links? Because from what I have studied so far they have their hand in just about every facet of society, especially governments - Worldwide.

A bit more about them in general..........

There is a worldwide conspiracy being orchestrated by an extremely powerful and influential group of genetically-related individuals (at least at the highest echelons) which include many of the world's wealthiest people, top political leaders, and corporate elite, as well as members of the so-called Black Nobility of Europe (dominated by the British Crown) whose goal is to create a One World (fascist) Government, stripped of nationalistic and regional boundaries, that is obedient to their agenda. Their intention is to effect complete and total control over every human being on the planet.

The Illuminati is the oldest term commonly used to refer to the 13 bloodline families (and their offshoots) that make up a major portion of this controlling elite. Most members of the Illuminati are also members in the highest ranks of numerous secretive and occult societies which in many cases extend straight back into the ancient world. The upper levels of the tightly compartmentalized (need-to-know-basis) Illuminati structural pyramid include planning committees and organizations that the public has little or no knowledge of. The upper levels of the Illuminati pyramid include secretive committees with names such as: the Council of 3, the Council of 5, the Council of 7, the Council of 9, the Council of 13, the Council of 33, the Grand Druid Council, the Committee of 300 (also called the "Olympians") and the Committee of 500 among others.

"A One World Government and one-unit monetary system, under permanent non-elected hereditary oligarchists who self-select from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system as it was in the Middle Ages. In this One World entity, population will be limited by restrictions on the number of children per family, diseases, wars, famines, until 1 billion people who are useful to the ruling class, in areas which will be strictly and clearly defined, remain as the total world population.

There will be no middle class, only rulers and the servants. All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of laws, backed up by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military to enforce laws in all former countries where no national boundaries shall exist. The system will be on the basis of a welfare state; those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live; those who are rebellious will simple be starved to death or be declared outlaws, thus a target for anyone who wishes to kill them. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited."

The sheer magnitude and complex web of deceit surrounding the individuals and organizations involved in this conspiracy is mind boggling, even for the most astute among us. Most people react with disbelief and skepticism towards the topic, unaware that they have been conditioned (brainwashed) to react with skepticism by institutional and media influences that were created by the Mother of All mind control organizations: The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations in London. Author and de-programmer Fritz Springmeier (The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines ) says that most people have built in "slides" that short circuit the mind's critical examination process when it comes to certain sensitive topics. "Slides", Springmeier reports, is a CIA term for a conditioned type of response which dead ends a person's thinking and terminates debate or examination of the topic at hand. For example, the mention of the word "conspiracy" often solicits a slide response with many people. (Springmeier has co-authored three books on trauma-based programming which detail how the Illuminati employs highly tuned and extrememly sophisticated Mind Control (MC) training programs that begin the programming process while the intended victim is still within the womb. Mind Control is a much greater problem than most people realize. According to Cisco Wheeler, a former Illuminati mind control programmer, there are 10 million people who have been programmed as mind controlled slaves using trauma-based MC programs with names like Monarch and MK Ultra. The newer, non-trauma, electronic means of MC programming that grew out of the Montauk Project, may include millions more. Al Bielek, who played a principle role in the development of the Montauk Project, said that there likely 10 million victims of Montauk style mind control programming worldwide, the majority located in the USA. He also said that there are covert Montauk Programming 'Centers' in every major city in the U.S. )

What most Americans believe to be "Public Opinion" is in reality carefully crafted and scripted propaganda designed to elicit a desired behavioral response from the public. Public opinion polls are really taken with the intent of gauging the public's acceptance of the Illuminati's planned programs. A strong showing in the polls tells the Illuminati that the programing is "taking", while a poor showing tells the NWO manipulators that they have to recast or "tweak" the programming until the desired response is achieved. While the thrust and content of the propaganda is decided at Tavistock, implementation of the propaganda is executed in the United States by well over 200 'think tanks' such as the Rand Corporation and the Brookings Institute which are overseen and directed by the top NWO mind control organization in the United States, the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) in Menlo Park, California.


I am trying to be open minded, I even try and look up, the "for" arguement for it all, but it's really hard to comprehend this "NWO" as good in any way........ if you want to discuss or debate with me about this, feel free, but as requested just don't be an ass to me, and you will find my replies to be that of a pleasant nature.


:)
 
#77
The NWO global conspirators manifest their agenda through the skillful manipulation of human emotions, especially fear. (9/11 "Terror Attacks" for example).

The technique is as follows: Illuminati strategists create the Problem- by funding , assembling, and training an "opposition" group to stimulate turmoil in an established political power (sovereign country, region, continent, etc.) that they wish to impinge upon and thus create opposing factions in a conflict that the Illuminati themselves maneuvered into existence. In recent decades, so called "opposition" groups are usually identified in the media as 'freedom fighters' or 'liberators' (recently the KLA-Kosovo Liberation Army).

At the same time, the leader of the established political power where the conflict is being orchestrated is demonized and, on cue, referred to as 'another Hitler' (take your pick: Saddam Hussein, Milosevic, Kadaffi, etc.). The 'freedom fighters' are not infrequently assembled from a local criminal element (i.e. KLA, drug traffickers). In the spirit of true Machiavellian deceit, the same NWO strategists are equally involved in covertly arming and advising the leader of the established power as well (the Illuminati always profits from any armed conflict by loaning money, arming, and supplying all parties involved in a war).

The conflict is drawn to the world stage by the controlled media outlets with a barrage of photos and video tape reports of horrific and bloody atrocities suffered by innocent civilians. The cry goes up "Something has to be done!" And That is the desired Reaction (note: the same technique is presently being used to bring about gun control in the United States).

The NWO puppeteers then provide the Solution by sending in UN 'Peace Keepers' (Bosnia) or a UN 'Coalition Force' (Gulf War) or NATO Bombers and then ground troops (Kosovo). Once installed, the 'peace keepers' never leave (Bosnia, Kosovo). The idea is to have NWO controlled ground troops in all major countries or strategic areas where significant resistance to the New World Order takeover is likely to be encountered.

- Not sure if any peeps here can connect the dots, but once you start looking into it more and more, it becomes pretty obvious the amount of control we are under, and don't even know it. Freedom, is viitually no longer existent in my eyes.
 

ill-matic

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#78
^^ man all of that stuff you posted is just speculation. it's not substantiated by any sources. it's fun to entertain such ideas but theyre not grounded on anything. be realistic.
 
#79
^^ man all of that stuff you posted is just speculation. it's not substantiated by any sources. it's fun to entertain such ideas but theyre not grounded on anything. be realistic.
Is it ? Did you actually read it, and perhaps look up some things for yourself ?

You must of, obviously, care to share any info, refuting that speculation ?

I eagerly await, because honestly, I soooooo wish it wasn't true, honestly.

:)
 

ill-matic

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#80
show me the links to everything you've posted.

and also, i still dont see the link between the Australian government's internet censorship and the illuminati.. so when a federal government acts within its mandate to implement policies (either good or bad), you use that to prove the existence of something like the Illuminati? It's just so far fetched.. sure it's an idea. but that's all it is. there's no substance to the idea.

this is all speculative dribble.
 
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